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What about that nation that bombs nearly every country on the globe at one time or another? None of our business, you say?
The discussion is about a woman's right to do what she wants with her body. What are you talking about? Find the right thread, friend, to appear relevant.

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Well heaven forbid we ask for some qualified medical oversight before pushing the reset button on a living, albeit fragile, human being.
Allow me to clarify a poorly constructed post on my part. The last sentence of my post "I also believe you are advocating Prohibition for a medical procedure." should have been a separate paragraph. The statement has nothing at all to do with your prescription idea. Your prior stance to abolish abortion altogether led to that statement. Prohibition had some pretty serious unintended consequences, did it not?

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The discussion is about a woman's right to do what she wants with her body. What are you talking about? Find the right thread, friend, to appear relevant.
The point was that you were digressing. Get it now?
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Lemme ask you a hypothetical. What if an abortion needed to at least be prescribed by a primary care physician? That would go a long way to address the concerns - founded or not - of individuals like myself who consider the abortion as birth-control / convenience factor to be on par with an offense as lined out by any of the other laws protecting the unborn in 37 of our 50 states.
First, Ralph Reed SHOULD scare you. He should be in jail but wasn't investigated by the chair of the committee <coughmccaincough>.

As for a primary care physician, I am mixed on that. IF the physician does not feel compelled to interject their own morals into the exam, I see no problem. If, on the other hand the physician starts down the "don't get an abortion, it is wrong" road, then there is a problem. I say this because we have several physicians who advertise as "Pregnant? Considering an Abortion? Consult with Dr. XXX for your options." And it is nothing but ProLife scare tactics.

But to further answer your question, clinics also have physicians on staff, that do the procedures and follow state approved guidelines. And most clinics [and most states] require two visits, one to determine number of weeks along and the second for the procedure. Why does that not meet your criteria?

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I understand that. But until we achieve EdWorld we need to insure that all the rights and options are open. I actually think that most of the options you mention are just as viable [sorry Q] even if roe v wade stands as is. Most people, given the opportunities are going to take the options if they have them. In the experiences that I have seen [discounting those two exceptions] the decisions for abortions were done based on "no other options" - PERIOD. Some were health, some where nuts parents, one was a marriage jam, a couple were shear poverty. Options would have been good. I looked.
And thus, while the COTUS purist in me says that Roe v Wade is a piece of crap, it really is the furthest thing from my mind when choosing people to vote for. Edworld would be a good place to live, IMHO, with regards to this issue. I can only wonder if the capital invested in politicians on this issue were put to work where it mattered, whether Edworld would be where we lived. Don't forget the access to the magic drug that elimates unwanted pregnancy.

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And thus, while the COTUS purist in me says that Roe v Wade is a piece of crap, it really is the furthest thing from my mind when choosing people to vote for. Edworld would be a good place to live, IMHO, with regards to this issue. I can only wonder if the capital invested in politicians on this issue were put to work where it mattered, whether Edworld would be where we lived. Don't forget the access to the magic drug that elimates unwanted pregnancy.
If it happens after conception, it's abortion. What about before conception? Don't the sperm and egg have the potential to form a human being? Should we permit any interference? Shouldn't we all be f*cking all the time?
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And thus, while the COTUS purist in me says that Roe v Wade is a piece of crap, it really is the furthest thing from my mind when choosing people to vote for. Edworld would be a good place to live, IMHO, with regards to this issue. I can only wonder if the capital invested in politicians on this issue were put to work where it mattered, whether Edworld would be where we lived. Don't forget the access to the magic drug that elimates unwanted pregnancy.
Now the "every sperm is sacred" crowd would not like that. Since they push this ProLife thing back to intent, your drug is going to run into problems.

And that reminds me. I have been meaning to bring up that many religions preach NO Birth Control and that it is a SIN so that narrows BC down for a good chunk of hormonally driven kids who can't decide which sin happens to be worse. But since one [buying birth control] requires level headed planning and the other is on impulse power guess which one wins?

And you know what they call folks who use the withdrawal method of birth control? Parents.

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If it happens after conception, it's abortion. What about before conception? Don't the sperm and egg have the potential to form a human being? Should we permit any interference? Shouldn't we all be f*cking all the time?
You're in a moral conflict, I guess. But your last sentence could resonate with the electorate.

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Bear. I'm still waiting. All I have to loose is my reputation here. Thats a price I am willing to pay.
What are you waiting on?

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You're in a moral conflict, I guess. But your last sentence could resonate with the electorate.
Closely related to the Palin selection, no doubt. See, it all comes round.
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