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A lot of Americans donated to the Ron Paul campaign for no reason other than to allow him to continue spreading a message to a very receptive young audience. Look for those numbers to improve.
I understand that and it is a good thing. My concern with the Ron Paul message is Ron Paul. What happens when he fades into the woodwork like Ross Perot. The message and the movement dies.

There has to be something much, much bigger than what I see generated by the Ron Paul Campaign before a third party can congeal to have a legitimate presence. That certainly does not mean there should not be effort in the meantime. But much of that effort needs to be in local and state and Congressional races that provide a backbone for a National candidate. That just does NOT exist. And that is a real shame.

How many Congressional spinoffs of the Ron Paul Movement have there been for this election season? That would be an important number to know.

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Why shouldn't Obama use race as an issue? He's running against a party full of racist.
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Ross Perot was a billionaire flake who got a lot more attention than he deserved. Ron Paul is a living breathing example of what many Americans want (or certainly should want) as a leader. Forget his message, admire his intelligence, his candor, his consistency, his strict adherence to the high road, his stubborn refusal to place his political party or special interests above his principles. These are the things (along with his message) that may leave a lasting impression upon an entire generation. I don't know what impact that will have on our future, perhaps none, but I am proud to have contributed to his campaign, which I remind you, was launched from within the two-party system.

In any case, you are on the wrong side of this debate mcbear, and I will tell you why. I am telling you to vote for whomever you want, and you are telling me that I should not do the same. I'm sorry, but that's just wrong, no matter how you slice it.

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Sorry skippy, I know what the plan is, I know what the reference is, apparently you failed to get the POINTLESS entendre associated with old cars and tuneups.

Apparently you don't get the point [oops, sorry] of the tire gauge comment from Obama. Considering your zeal to support drilling without understanding the costs associated, I can understand why.

As for lazy. Nice shot from left field. Not sure where it connects but hey, creativity isn't your strong suite.
Having lived in southside Chicago from personal experience I know how unorganized it is and how many rattletraps there are. I can assure you that only a small number of southsiders own tire guages and fewer still would not know what to do with the read-out.

So you want the BHO supporters to believe that he has the experience to lead; when suggestions like pressure guages and tuneups should require him to STFU. That is about as practical as monolingual BHO telling us we all should learn Spanish. Somewhere behind BHO are small people with small ideas. Are you one of them?

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^ [hijack] Whereabouts and when? I'm from South Shore. [/hijack]

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Having lived in southside Chicago from personal experience I know how unorganized it is and how many rattletraps there are. I can assure you that only a small number of southsiders own tire guages and fewer still would not know what to do with the read-out.

So you want the BHO supporters to believe that he has the experience to lead; when suggestions like pressure guages and tuneups should require him to STFU. That is about as practical as monolingual BHO telling us we all should learn Spanish. Somewhere behind BHO are small people with small ideas. Are you one of them?
I realize that the concept of entendre is foreign to you. The POINTLESS in reference to Tuneup in old cars has to do with cars not having points any longer. Car guys know these things.

Now, as for the 'small people with small ideas'. Let's look at some math. Americans drive approximately 2.8 Trillion miles per year [aaa]. If we average 24 mpg, we use around 120 billion gallons of gasoline in our vehicles. If, through perfect tire inflation, we improved our collective fuel efficiency by 1.5%, that would be 1.8 billion gallons. A barrel of oil produces around 20 gallons of gasoline, so the total savings available JUST through tire inflation is approximately 90,000,000 barrels of oil annually. When you add in tune ups the number goes up. When you add in other savings, the number goes up. When you improve CAFE, the number goes up.

It is the accumulation of small, quality ideas that make the world work. One big, bad idea does not make the problem go away.

So what small idea have you contributed?

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Ross Perot was a billionaire flake who got a lot more attention than he deserved. Ron Paul is a living breathing example of what many Americans want (or certainly should want) as a leader. Forget his message, admire his intelligence, his candor, his consistency, his strict adherence to the high road, his stubborn refusal to place his political party or special interests above his principles. These are the things (along with his message) that may leave a lasting impression upon an entire generation. I don't know what impact that will have on our future, perhaps none, but I am proud to have contributed to his campaign, which I remind you, was launched from within the two-party system.

In any case, you are on the wrong side of this debate mcbear, and I will tell you why. I am telling you to vote for whomever you want, and you are telling me that I should not do the same. I'm sorry, but that's just wrong, no matter how you slice it.
I am not telling you who to vote for, just that the vote is wasted since it is not backed by a solid national party and therefore will only act as a low percentage spoiler. Those are two different things.

I agree that Ron Paul is different and many of his ideas are very good and very fresh. I wish he had pulled away from the Republicans a year ago and tried to mount a solid campaign. It would have been a different race with a different national conversation.

Don't confuse my opinion that a vote for a third party is a wasted vote at this point in time [2008] with a thought that it is my opinion that third parties are a waste of time for the future of this country as they are not. I would be very happy with a four or five party system in this country.

My opinion is that they need to get off their asses and organize. I have been trying to get Kentuckians to do so for over 20 years. It's like herding cats.

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I realize that the concept of entendre is foreign to you. The POINTLESS in reference to Tuneup in old cars has to do with cars not having points any longer. Car guys know these things.

Now, as for the 'small people with small ideas'. Let's look at some math. Americans drive approximately 2.8 Trillion miles per year [aaa]. If we average 24 mpg, we use around 120 billion gallons of gasoline in our vehicles. If, through perfect tire inflation, we improved our collective fuel efficiency by 1.5%, that would be 1.8 billion gallons. A barrel of oil produces around 20 gallons of gasoline, so the total savings available JUST through tire inflation is approximately 90,000,000 barrels of oil annually. When you add in tune ups the number goes up. When you add in other savings, the number goes up. When you improve CAFE, the number goes up.

It is the accumulation of small, quality ideas that make the world work. One big, bad idea does not make the problem go away.

So what small idea have you contributed?
As long as it isn't a double entendre, you may have a chance...

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