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I would like to congratulate Team Shrinking28 for maintaining your current force levels for another month. Scraping the bottom can take a lot out of a team but you have held together, steadfast behind your leader [some much closer behind than most of us find comfortable]. But hey, when you are tasked with putting lipstick on a pig, who are we to question where you put it.


Bush, Congress get record lows in AP-Ipsos poll

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Jul 15, 4:38 PM (ET)

By ALAN FRAM

WASHINGTON (AP) - It's gotten even harder to find someone who thinks things are going well in this country.

Jarred by stubborn economic woes and long-lasting wars abroad, a soured public has given President Bush and Congress record low approval ratings in the Associated Press-Ipsos poll. The survey, released Tuesday, also set a new floor for the number of people saying the country is heading in the right direction.

Just 16 percent said the country is moving the right way, a virtual tie with the 17 percent who said so last month.

In addition, 28 percent said they approve of the job Bush is doing, tying his low in the AP-Ipsos survey set last April.

Congress fared even worse: a new AP-Ipsos low of 18 percent said they were happy with Congress' work, down 5 percentage points from last month.

With soaring fuel prices, ailing financial and housing markets and rising inflation, Bush got his lowest grade for handling the economy. Just 24 percent approved of how he's dealing with it, tying last month's AP-Ipsos low on that issue.

About three in 10 voiced approval for how he's handling Iraq, domestic issues and foreign affairs. All are near or tied with previous lows in the survey.

The AP-Ipsos poll began in December 2003. The record low presidential approval in the Gallup Poll came in 1952, when President Truman hit 22 percent. Since Gallup began asking about approval of Congress in 1974, the all-time low has been 18 percent, reached several times, most recently in May.

The AP-Ipsos poll was conducted from July 10-14 and involved telephone interviews with 1,000 adults. It had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

---AP Director of Surveys Trevor Tompson and AP News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this report.

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Another media-driven poll designed to give them something to write about. They would do much better spending their time covering the things people care about changing. Approval ratings are outputs that can't be managed directly.

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Another media-driven poll designed to give them something to write about. They would do much better spending their time covering the things people care about changing. Approval ratings are outputs that can't be managed directly.
Then why do politicians and corporations and everyone else utilize them to fine tune their message and their platforms and strategies?

Only simpletons go forward with a Stay the Course mentality not taking in input from constituents and the public at...

Wait, I see where this could go.

So, are you the SpinMinion for the Shrinking28?

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Then why do politicians and corporations and everyone else utilize them to fine tune their message and their platforms and strategies?

Only simpletons go forward with a Stay the Course mentality not taking in input from constituents and the public at...

Wait, I see where this could go.

So, are you the SpinMinion for the Shrinking28?
As an object of curiosity you really should keep your 2.8 cm in your pants.

See how you are? You post about approval ratings and after I post a response, you change the topic to polls in general. Approval ratings are outputs, I repeat, not inputs. Were you to do that, our pols would wander around thinking no one loves them, just before they pulled the trigger.

While we are on the topic, though, I've been amused by "country on the wrong track" poll question. The conservative (45%)answers YES, as does the liberal(45%). For different reasons and thinking about the same issue, giving the same anwer. The reported result is,"90% think country is going in the wrong direction." One can't draw any conclusion or make any policy based on the report.

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Another media-driven poll designed to give them something to write about. They would do much better spending their time covering the things people care about changing. Approval ratings are outputs that can't be managed directly.
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Then why do politicians and corporations and everyone else utilize them to fine tune their message and their platforms and strategies?

Only simpletons go forward with a Stay the Course mentality not taking in input from constituents and the public at...

Wait, I see where this could go.

So, are you the SpinMinion for the Shrinking28?

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As an object of curiosity you really should keep your 2.8 cm in your pants.

See how you are? You post about approval ratings and after I post a response, you change the topic to polls in general. Approval ratings are outputs, I repeat, not inputs. Were you to do that, our pols would wander around thinking no one loves them, just before they pulled the trigger.
You really need to READ what YOU wrote to determine WHY I wrote about polls. HINT: Your first line. THAT was the subject of your paragraph. The last line regarding Approval ratings were simply the Objective Complement of the Paragraph.

And yes, we know that approval ratings are OUTPUTS. Duh, They are the result of a poll. Every element reported by a poll is an output. I think that is how polls are designed.

Now, about that other thing. First the naked butt comment and now interest about my pants. I am starting to get a bit concerned.

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