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That's neither here nor there.

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All the discussion and obfuscation regarding the role of Ms. Glaspie in the wiki article and elsewhere should be met with a great deal of skepticism in my opinion. It is however, clear that the U.S. and Iraq engaged in high-level discussions regarding the massing of Iraqi troops near the Kuwait border. It is also clear that at no time was a message delivered to Iraq that the U.S. would not tolerate military aggression toward Kuwait and/or that we would intervene on Kuwait's behalf in that event. Had we done so, there is a high likelihood that Saddam would have abandoned that path. Given the nature of our relationship and conditional alliance with Iraq immediately prior to that time, such a glaring omission is tantamount to tacit approval.
Have you seen the PBS story about this? It was substantially different from your version above.

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There is no "evidence" That's the point. I know that both sets of photos have been doctored. The first set was doctored to make them look better and the second set was doctored to make them look worse, SO WHAT!!!

Really now, you KNOW??? Let's just take a gander since you failed to look at the source documents.

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I think someone is deliberately missing Ark's point. Who is to say that the 'originals' were not 'brushed up' for use as publicity shots. Isn't Ark's point simply that the Fox shots were adjusted to remove the retouching to more closely match reality?
If it was only "let's take any airbrushing away". But is it.

Now, having seen what airbrushed mugshots look like on websites and what candids look like, these originals look to be much closer to original shots than airbrushed or 'chopped.

Now the Fox shots...

As far as the SO WHAT, ETHICS. It is not Fox's job to modify the photographs of subjects in an effort to color the tone of a story. It is not Fox's job to make fun of story subjects because they don't like the story. That is the job of Comedy Central, NOT a news organization. The SO WHAT is the diminution of credibility of their truthfulness and the ethics of their programming.

Much like when Dan Rather doctored the facts in a story, it begs the question, what else have they doctored to mislead or misinform the public? While some people are smart enough to discern the nuance of a doctored photograph and its implications, others are not that sophisticated. Those are who it hurts the most.

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Now, having seen what airbrushed mugshots look like on websites and what candids look like, these originals look to be much closer to original shots than airbrushed or 'chopped.
Are you saying that all those people in photos with you really DO have fleshy antennae sticking out of the tops of their heads?

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Said it before, I'll say it again. Take FOX News seriously at your own peril. It's entertainment television, and the people who lap up that kind of shit are disciples of Limbaugh...like Jayparrot, for example, who consistently demonstrates an inability to argue anything from a position of consideration or comprehension. They shut off their brains, and let TV tell them what to think and say. It's like a 24-hour version of Oprah for guys...guys who happen to be fucking idiots.
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Are you saying that all those people in photos with you really DO have fleshy antennae sticking out of the tops of their heads?
a digital cancer cluster. Actually two digits.

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