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Leader of Egyptian movement demanding end to Mubarak's rule dies

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Leader of Egyptian movement demanding end to Mubarak's rule dies

03/07/2008


CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Abdel Wahab Al-Meseri, who led an Egyptian movement demanding an end to President Hosni Mubarak's rule, has died. He was 70.
Al-Meseri died of cancer Wednesday night, Hossam Tokan, director of the Palestine Hospital in Cairo, said Thursday. Al-Meseri, a professor at Cairo's Ain Shams University, was elected coordinator of the Egyptian Movement for Change, or Kifaya, in 2007.

During a Kifaya protest against the government's economic policies in January he was beaten by police who grabbed him with his wife to be found later abandoned in the desert outside Cairo. [ ]

"He was subjected to harsh and despicable treatment by the regime but remained defiant and courageous to the moment of his death, [ ] " said George Ishaq, a co-founder of Kifaya and his predecessor as leader of the movement. Ishaq said al-Meseri will be buried in his Nile Delta hometown of Dimnhour later Thursday. He said the movement's leadership will meet soon to elect a new coordinator. The state-run Middle East News Agency described al-Meseri's death as "a great lose for the Arab and Islamic nations."
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Al-Meseri was also considered one of the Arab world's leading experts on Jewish and Israeli affairs. Over a quarter century, he compiled the eight-volume "Jews, Judaism and Zionism Encyclopedia."

In the 3,500-page work, Al-Meseri theorized that the problem is not with the Jews but rather with Zionism [ ]. He looked on Zionism not as a national movement for Jews but as a racist "phenomenon." He viewed Israel as a colonial stronghold imposed by Western powers to defend their interests in the Middle East.

Al-Meseri rejected the notion of excluding Jews and called for the coexistence of Arabs and Jews in a democratic country.

Al-Meseri also published half a dozen books on Zionism and topics related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. He graduated from Columbia University in New York and later earned a doctorate in English literature from Rutgers university in the U.S. state of New Jersey. Al-Meseri was survived by a son Yasser, a daughter Noura and wife Huda Hijazi.
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He looked on Zionism not as a national movement for Jews but as a racist "phenomenon."
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Al-Meseri rejected the notion of excluding Jews and called for the coexistence of Arabs and Jews in a democratic country.
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He looked on Zionism not as a national movement for Jews but as a racist "phenomenon."
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Al-Meseri rejected the notion of excluding Jews and called for the coexistence of Arabs and Jews in a democratic country.
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Kind of ironic , when his posse showed it's true colours with it's anti-Israel campaign, remember ? 2006 , Kifaya want's President Hosni Mubarak out of the way why? Because he supports the Egyptian-Israeli treaty that ended hostilities between the two neighbours, after four wars between 1948 and 1973, and is cited by successive U.S. administrations as a model for peaceful coexistence in the region, Kifaya is just a ruse, just more arab trouble makers trying to destabilize the area by undermining the Sovereign state of Egypt. You need to keep on your toes with these slippery little shits trying to convince you they talk in the name of democracy when it's Jihad they want.
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Have you been in Egypt lately? It's a shithole tourist trap for a nation that turned into beggars. Where is all that money we give them? I saw some large, I mean large military facilities so WTF? We give them $$ so they can escalate with armaments? Against who? Israel?
The people on the dirty filthy streets are starving yet their government finds enough funds to put Mubaraks' pictures everywhere. He's a friggin dictator if you ask me, just like Saddam. The only difference is that he is on our side for now. Will his son hold that same position? Oh yeah, his son is being groomed for the presidency, did I forget to mention that?
If they have a jihad to clean up their country, that's their problem and it's part of their growth as a nation. Just like any other nation, they will need an identity they can be proud of but today's identity is just the one of a cheep where a once proud people are crammed in makeshift cities next to piles of rubbish. Is that ok with you? As long as they play nice, you're ok with that? If I was an Egyptian I would not accept such bullshit. I would say Vonny, fuk you, Israel fuk you, US fuk you, I will see you all after I clean house, set my own rules by the people for the people then we will talk diplomacy based on MUTUAL interests where my people don't have to beg your people for a taxi ride or some friggin bakshish.
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Have you been in Egypt lately? It's a shithole tourist trap for a nation that turned into beggars. Where is all that money we give them? I saw some large, I mean large military facilities so WTF? We give them $$ so they can escalate with armaments? Against who? Israel?
The people on the dirty filthy streets are starving yet their government finds enough funds to put Mubaraks' pictures everywhere. He's a friggin dictator if you ask me, just like Saddam. The only difference is that he is on our side for now. Will his son hold that same position? Oh yeah, his son is being groomed for the presidency, did I forget to mention that?
If they have a jihad to clean up their country, that's their problem and it's part of their growth as a nation. Just like any other nation, they will need an identity they can be proud of but today's identity is just the one of a cheep where a once proud people are crammed in makeshift cities next to piles of rubbish. Is that ok with you? As long as they play nice, you're ok with that? If I was an Egyptian I would not accept such bullshit. I would say Vonny, fuk you, Israel fuk you, US fuk you, I will see you all after I clean house, set my own rules by the people for the people then we will talk diplomacy based on MUTUAL interests where my people don't have to beg your people for a taxi ride or some friggin bakshish.
you could be talking about America!
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Have you been in Egypt lately? It's a shithole tourist trap for a nation that turned into beggars. Where is all that money we give them? I saw some large, I mean large military facilities so WTF? We give them $$ so they can escalate with armaments? Against who? Israel?
The people on the dirty filthy streets are starving yet their government finds enough funds to put Mubaraks' pictures everywhere. He's a friggin dictator if you ask me, just like Saddam. The only difference is that he is on our side for now. Will his son hold that same position? Oh yeah, his son is being groomed for the presidency, did I forget to mention that?
If they have a jihad to clean up their country, that's their problem and it's part of their growth as a nation. Just like any other nation, they will need an identity they can be proud of but today's identity is just the one of a cheep where a once proud people are crammed in makeshift cities next to piles of rubbish. Is that ok with you? As long as they play nice, you're ok with that? If I was an Egyptian I would not accept such bullshit. I would say Vonny, fuk you, Israel fuk you, US fuk you, I will see you all after I clean house, set my own rules by the people for the people then we will talk diplomacy based on MUTUAL interests where my people don't have to beg your people for a taxi ride or some friggin bakshish.
Exactly right and good for you. Now get your ass over there and help those people.

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you could be talking about America!
Or many parts of Mexico, Brazil, Central America, or 70% of this world.
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Nope, we have pride!
That's one of the thing I am proud to be an American
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