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Condoleezza Rice Says She's `Proud' of Decision to Invade Iraq

July 3 (Bloomberg) -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she's proud of the U.S. decision to wage the Iraq war and insisted that the world is not more dangerous than it was when George W. Bush took office.

"We're now beginning to see that perhaps it's not so popular to be a suicide bomber. We're beginning to see that perhaps people are questioning whether Osama Bin Laden ought to really be the face of Islam,''

"And I am proud of the decision of this administration to overthrow Saddam Hussein,'' said Rice, who was Bush's national security adviser at the time of the March 2003 invasion.''

Rice, who backs the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Arizona Senator John McCain, said she "thought it was great'' when the Democratic race came down to a woman and a black man. "I didn't think it was surprising,'' she said.

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Why We Went to War in Iraq

A lot of poor commentary has framed the Iraq war as a conflict of "choice" rather than of "necessity." In fact, President George W. Bush chose to remove Saddam Hussein from power because he concluded that doing so was necessary.

President Bush inherited a worrisome Iraq problem from Bill Clinton and from his own father. Saddam had systematically undermined the measures the U.N. Security Council put in place after the Gulf War to contain his regime. In the first months of the Bush presidency, officials debated what to do next...

...When the president ultimately decided that the Iraqi regime must be ousted by force, he was influenced by five key factors:

1) Saddam was a threat to U.S. interests before 9/11. The Iraqi dictator had started wars against Iran and Kuwait, and had fired missiles at Saudi Arabia and Israel. Unrepentant about the rape of Kuwait, he remained intensely hostile to the U.S. He provided training, funds, safe haven and political support to various types of terrorists. He had developed WMD and used chemical weapons fatally against Iran and Iraqi Kurds. Iraq's official press issued statements praising the 9/11 attacks on the U.S.

2) The threat of renewed aggression by Saddam was more troubling and urgent after 9/11. Though Saddam's regime was not implicated in the 9/11 operation, it was an important state supporter of terrorism. And President Bush's strategy was not simply retaliation against the group responsible for 9/11. Rather it was to prevent the next major attack. This focused U.S. officials not just on al Qaeda, but on all the terrorist groups and state supporters of terrorism who might be inspired by 9/11 – especially on those with the potential to use weapons of mass destruction.

3) To contain the threat from Saddam, all reasonable means short of war had been tried unsuccessfully for a dozen years. The U.S. did not rush to war. Working mainly through the U.N., we tried a series of measures to contain the Iraqi threat: formal diplomatic censure, weapons inspections, economic sanctions, no-fly zones, no-drive zones and limited military strikes. A defiant Saddam, however, dismantled the containment strategy and the U.N. Security Council had no stomach to sustain its own resolutions, let alone compel Saddam's compliance.

4) While there were large risks involved in a war, the risks of leaving Saddam in power were even larger. The U.S. and British pilots patrolling the no-fly zones were routinely under enemy fire, and a larger confrontation – over Kuwait again or some other issue – appeared virtually certain to arise once Saddam succeeded in getting out from under the U.N.'s crumbling economic sanctions.

Mr. Bush decided it was unacceptable to wait while Saddam advanced his biological weapons program or possibly developed a nuclear weapon. The CIA was mistaken, we all now know, in its assessment that we would find chemical and biological weapons stockpiles in Iraq. But after the fall of the regime, intelligence officials did find chemical and biological weapons programs structured so that Iraq could produce stockpiles in three to five weeks. They also found that Saddam was intent on having a nuclear weapon. The CIA was wrong in saying just before the war that his nuclear program was active; but Iraq appears to have been in a position to make a nuclear weapon in less than a year if it purchased fissile material from a supplier such as North Korea.

5) America after 9/11 had a lower tolerance for such dangers. It was reasonable – one might say obligatory – for the president to worry about a renewed confrontation with Saddam. Like many others, he feared Saddam might then use weapons of mass destruction again, perhaps deployed against us through a proxy such as one of the many terrorist groups Iraq supported.

Thoughtful, patriotic Americans differed then and now on whether the risk of leaving Saddam in power outweighed the risk of war. But Mr. Bush concluded that it did, and that war therefore was necessary. In Congress, many Democrats as well as Republicans supported that conclusion. Debates will continue over whether the president should have balanced the risks differently. But characterizing the Iraq war as "a war of choice" sheds no light on the issue.

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This actually makes perfect sense, especially when one stops to consider how many times the U.S. mainland has been threatened and/or attacked with WMDs previously, and how many times the U.S. mainland has been threatened and/or attacked by Iraq specifically.

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This actually make perfect sense, especially when one stops to consider how many times the U.S. mainland has been threatened and/or attacked with WMDs previously, and how many times the U.S. mainland has been threatened and/or attacked by Iraq specifically.
That actually make/s perfect sense, especially when one stops to consider the source of your anti-American, anti-military view of the world!

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There's that incessant clucking again.......

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There's that incessant clucking again.......
I have your number, don't I? Drives you crazy, doesnt'n it??

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Yes, that's it. Cluck, cluck, cluck.....

I'll tell you what does perturb me though, the thought that some or any of the lies and revisionist gibberish spewed by that idiot, Feith and the rest of the neocon cabal, might eventually worm its way into our history books some day....

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Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she's proud of the U.S. decision to wage the Iraq war...
So what?

That’s like Hitler being proud of the Final Solution.

No one gives a shit what Rice thinks.



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A lot of poor commentary has framed the Iraq war as a conflict of "choice" rather than of "necessity." In fact, President George W. Bush chose to remove Saddam Hussein from power because he concluded that doing so was necessary.

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This was written by Douglas Feith, under secretary of defense for policy from 2001 to 2005. Good to read from an unbiased source. One of Rummy's boys.

What a bunch of absolute crap.

While a bad man, Saddam did NOTHING to garner an invasion by the US. NOTHING. This silly support of Bushie, five years later for a failed decision and a failed plan and a failed execution and a failed followup and a failed exit strategy is just, well, FAILURE.

The only success in Iraq is that Bush VERY successfully managed to ruin the reputation of this great nation throughout the world. He made the United States an embarrassment across the world, showed the world that the USA would stoop so low as to break international laws and abridge our own Constitution to torture people. THAT is the extent of the success of Bushie and Iraq and The War Against Terrorists [TWAT].

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