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Palestinians.
Sorry, I edited my post. I was asking "Who is we?"

The circle of violence perpetrated by both sides is almost impossible to stop.
Historically, in that region, utter defeat and enslavement are how it ends for one side.
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With words like "resistance","defeat", do you not consider yourself then basically at war with the enemy ?
In your latest thread, I sense not only grief but also anger, rage and a need for vengeance.
Of course Palestinians are at war with Israel. Even if Palestinians turn the other cheek and even pretend there's no war, Israel won't stop.

Take for example when Hamas and Israel agreed on a truce brokered by Egypt this summer. It was perfectly quite for both sides (although Gaza was still under siege) until Israel decided to stir things up with a military incursion into the Strip.

Israel stole our land, homes, even our identity. At least we can fight back for our lives. It'll be a long fight if Israel decides to or they can a t least agree to resume negotiations on a 2-states-for-2-peoples basis. They don't want to. They know they're militarily stronger and they have the support of the US.
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Sorry, I edited my post. I was asking "Who is we?"

The circle of violence perpetrated by both sides is almost impossible to stop.
Historically, in that region, utter defeat and enslavement are how it ends for one side.
Historically, since the Muslim conquest, everybody lived in peace under Islamic rules. Muslims, Christians and Jews. Both had their freedom to worship and move around until the Crusades and the Mongol attacks. Again peace was restored but then Zionist Jews eyed Palestine to be home for their illegitimate state of Israel.
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With words like "resistance","defeat", do you not consider yourself then basically at war with the enemy ?
In your latest thread, I sense not only grief but also anger, rage and a need for vengeance.
Rightly so!
And please don't ask her to take her family out of there so some settler will just moving to their home. With your line of thinking I will make you my first target for exterminating a traitor if we ever get invaded.
This is about survival, identity and the right to exist.

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Rightly so!
And please don't ask her to take her family out of there so some settler will just moving to their home. With your line of thinking I will make you my first target for exterminating a traitor if we ever get invaded.
This is about survival, identity and the right to exist.
As a "friend", what's your advice for Tahloube and her surviving grandparent ?

Stay and possibly perish for the cause or help them leave the hell-hole ?
If your own loved one is there, what's your advice ?

Grow up, Drew.
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This is about survival, identity and the right to exist.
So says Israel.

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As a "friend", what's your advice for Tahloube and her surviving grandparent ?

Stay and possibly perish for the cause or help them leave the hell-hole ?
If your own loved one is there, what's your advice ?

Grow up, Drew.
"Stay and DIE for what you believe in." This is what I would tell my relatives. Leaving that place is what Israel wants and the Palestinians should not make it easy for them rather they should make them realize what mistakes they have made and make them realize that they too have become nothing more than the Nazi's that they escaped. Leaving would undermine the thousands of lives that have already been taken by Israelis in the last 60 years. I believe that the Palestinians need to seriously reach out to their other Arab brothers in that region and MAKE them become a part of the solution. Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries can cripple America within days, thereby crippling Israel since israel only exist because of USA. They exist on the bones that we throw them.
Tahloube, Just as Israel is strengthened by the USA, USA is strengthened by the likes of Saudi Arabia. Only the Arab countries in the region have the real power to do anything but it is a shame that the Saudi royal family is and has been in bed with America ever since oil was discovered. But then, the time is nearing end for the Saudi royal family also. I think the only chance your people have is for the Muslim countries to stop all oil exports to USA and Europe. Their economies depend on this and their way of life and everything that is great about America also depends on oil. Crippling America would mean that it would no longer be able to support Israel, which too would go down the drain. After USA and Europe have learned their lesson, then the Muslim oil producing countries can start selling us oil again but in very limited quantities. It can be done.
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So says Israel.
Then let them fight it out on their own, so why in the hell do we need to side one and not the other?

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As a "friend", what's your advice for Tahloube and her surviving grandparent ?

Stay and possibly perish for the cause or help them leave the hell-hole ?
If your own loved one is there, what's your advice ?

Grow up, Drew.
As I said, you are weak!
I would put my family, parents and myself in the line of fire if it meant something for my country. I would never hand the United States of America to an occupier, I would die fighting while you run away like a bitch.

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Then let them fight it out on their own, so why in the hell do we need to side one and not the other?
Ok, let 'em fight it out, the Palestinians would be eliminated in a couple of days. Am I missing something?

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