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Oh yes! I thought about it long and hard, but the filet was short and soft--and very very good!

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If you want to wipe-out violent deaths, you should start with Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia and Cleveland. When that's complete then you can throw stones.
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If you want to wipe-out violent deaths, you should start with Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia and Cleveland. When that's complete then you can throw stones.
Show us the last time a car bomb killed 35 in any of those cities.

I believe Oklahoma City would be your singular example.

I think the key is WE started their little Civil WAR with our destruction of their infrastructure, their established law enforcement and ironic as it was Administration that quelled violence between the Sunnis and Shiites.

WE unleashed their little Hell. WE are responsible for these deaths because WE failed to PLAN. Failed to understand their social, religious and tribal structure. WE Screwed UP.

Oh, and those who even think that anything that resembles "victory" will ever come of this has not got a clue of military or Middle Eastern history. A DRAW is as close as we will ever get. Just a draw. No Victory. EVER. That is not defeatist, that is the reality of war and police state.

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Show us the last time a car bomb killed 35 in any of those cities.

I believe Oklahoma City would be your singular example.

I think the key is WE started their little Civil WAR with our destruction of their infrastructure, their established law enforcement and ironic as it was Administration that quelled violence between the Sunnis and Shiites.

WE unleashed their little Hell. WE are responsible for these deaths because WE failed to PLAN. Failed to understand their social, religious and tribal structure. WE Screwed UP.

Oh, and those who even think that anything that resembles "victory" will ever come of this has not got a clue of military or Middle Eastern history. A DRAW is as close as we will ever get. Just a draw. No Victory. EVER. That is not defeatist, that is the reality of war and police state.
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"Reality," according to the Bad News Bear.
How about give us a version of your reality. You have yet to give me ONE answer all this time. All you do is to post junk.

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Baghdad a maze of security walls - Conflict in Iraq - MSNBC.com

The last report stated that Iraq is still unable to govern itself. How does one define winning, Jayhawk? The shooting stops periodically, like it did in Afghanistan, and then it shoots back up again, like it is doing in Afghanistan. Endless war, just like what Bush wanted.

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