...As for a satisfactory answer to your original question, you received a bunch of answers. You just didn't like the answers. That is not our problem.
We obviously misunderstand and disagree with one another in a fundamental way, so I'm not going to continue re-hashing the other stuff.
That said, in regard to your last paragraph, in your own words, I'm interested in hearing how you feel that the incessant barrage of condescending and outright fascist comments that are the brazen hallmarks of this "movement" don't deserve scrutiny, are acceptable, producing the desired result, and for which consideration of change is off the table.
That's what this guy's statement amounts to. Condescending and fascist. "I'm smarter than all of you bozo's who don't think the world is warming, and whatever you think is wrong, and however you've proved it is a lie, and you should be in jail for even talking about it."
Gore's credibility isn't even worth arguing anymore. How the operation of his "global enterprise" requires a hot tub to be running all the time is absolutely beyond me. I'M not the one who put him on a pedestal; he did that himself. The defense of this indefensible buffoon is more amazing to me than the absence of Jayhawk's sense of self.
It's a liberal mentality to proclaim that the message is more important than the messenger, especially when that dictum is suddenly nullified when the other side falls down from their self-erected pedestals. We're to look past Gore, the self-appointed spokesperson for the planet, and the hypocrisy of his own life when contrasted with the message he tells; yet we suffer slings and arrows of hostility when we don't immediately
condemn the Larry Craig's of the world. Quite a double standard.
And all of this is central to the point I'm trying to make, which you all keep trying to divert into psychoanalysis of my own position here - the GCC movement needs a makeover.
It's being championed by hypocrites and fascists. That fact detracts so greatly from the message, that otherwise reasonable yet conservative individuals cannot see the truth of it. Someone else can chime in if they agree, but this has certainly been the case for me.
I'm proud that you and FTL, etc. are so enlightened as to be able to see past the human failings of the messengers, and have the kind of time it takes to become fully immersed and well versed in the material. I can only apologize that priorities in my life prohibit me from becoming similarly educated, which is why I think it's fair to say the GCC movement has failed in this regard. The information has NOT been made accessible to the mainstream in an effective manner; it has been rammed down our throats by fascists and hypocrites - that's about all the exposure most people will have had. For some, the fascism and hypocrisy are palatable I suppose. Maybe most of them aren't aware that they're being talked down to, which would partially explain why I find myself in what you describe as a minority. I have to concede that this may be the case.
I'm not at all opposed to becoming educated on the full text of the IPCC; I just remain rather confounded by the reluctance of the advocates to address the questions of science (or at least what seem to the layperson to be based in science) posed by the opposition, in simple terms. All I hear is that if *I* can't demonstrate that I fully understand every aspect behind the questions, then the questions themselves are invalid...that's not an answer, that's a deflection. Usually those deflections are tinged with aggravation and hostility and/or condescension, which only strengthens the resolve of those posing the question to begin with. Now, every doubter in the world knows exactly how to press a believer's buttons. The response is unbelievably predictable...it's like going to the zoo. None of it is helping to bridge the gap between the facts and the message. It seems to me that the GCC movement would be well served by being able to sell it's case convincingly not just to soccer moms and tree huggers, but to honest and intelligent skeptics with genuinely open minds but with genuine questions (and perhaps plenty of misunderstandings). I put myself in this last category, and the treatment I've received by this movement (not the individuals here per se) is shameful.