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Old 06-08-2008, 05:52 PM   #21 (permalink)
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First, there is no "proving" or "disproving" anything to the racial slurs, rumor mongering and innuendo that you have been propagating.

All we actually have to go on is the phantom email campaign that has no proof or substance to it, has no physical evidence to it, has no known witnesses to it and yet somehow is believed by some folks. It was promised on June 2, I notice it did not materialize. It was promised on June 4, I notice it did not materialize.

So all we have is churn and rumors and the always thoughtful "where there is smoke...". Yet when it is suggested that you are a blatant racist due to your postings and there is enough smoke to cover and hide the Seventh Fleet somehow that "where there is smoke..." does not apply to you.
You act like what we know to be true about the Obama's relationship with Wright, Farrukhan and the church isn't even there. Like someone just pulled this out of nowhere trying to put a mark on an unblemished past, that Michelle and Barrack are just being picked on. Rumor has it (and dont worry, I know its just rumor for now) that she said this:

Michelle Obama, “Once again, the white man keeps us down, what’s up with Whitey, Why’d he attack Iraq, Why’d he let Katrina happen, Why’d he leave millions of children behind. This is the legacy the white man gives us.”

Ok, does this sound that far fetched when she was attending a church for 20 years where her Reverend was blaming the white people for creating AIDS to destroy black people?. Does it not somehow tie in with "for the first time in my adult life, I'm proud to be an American"?. Show me who you friends and I'll tell you who you are.
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Old 06-08-2008, 05:57 PM   #22 (permalink)
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While I am still considering Osama,,,,only for a change and some almost guaranteed excitement,, I despise the foul mouth , baby daddy,whitey hatin , black piece of rotten dog shit, mother fuckin I guarantee you a nigga,,bitch!
I hope when the assassins bullet flys it blows her brains across town , and not Osamas!

Imagine the guest list for the White House parties. The media will go ape shit.
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Yoseyman said he was in the porn industry, so I assume there must be a clip of his brass ball being weighed somewhere.
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Us Honk-Americans are shocked, shocked, that a politicians spouse might say something intemperate. Shocked.

I'll not vote for her just because of that!
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While I am still considering Osama,,,,only for a change and some almost guaranteed excitement,, I despise the foul mouth , baby daddy,whitey hatin , black piece of rotten dog shit, mother fuckin I guarantee you a nigga,,bitch!
I hope when the assassins bullet flys it blows her brains across town , and not Osamas!

Imagine the guest list for the White House parties. The media will go ape shit.
Are you sure you are still considering Obama?.
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Us Honk-Americans are shocked, shocked, that a politicians spouse might say something intemperate. Shocked.

I'll not vote for her just because of that!
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Would it not be the same as McCains cunt wife yelling Nigg* at a KKK rally?. You think the Obama's should be excused for hating on us, our children and all our ancestors because of the color of our skin?.
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You act like what we know to be true about the Obama's relationship with Wright, Farrukhan and the church isn't even there. Like someone just pulled this out of nowhere trying to put a mark on an unblemished past, that Michelle and Barrack are just being picked on. Rumor has it (and dont worry, I know its just rumor for now) that she said this:

Show me who you friends and I'll tell you who you are.
Last week I had dinner with three very good friends that I have knows since they were eight to 14 and I was 16. One is a Fundamental Evangelist who is every bit as Rightwing NeoConservative as any person I know. My mind explodes at some of the things that come out of his mouth considering where he came from and how he grew up.

Another of the group is a former Democratic political consultant, now Glock and H&K rep for Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama. He and I spent several years in national combat handgun competitions in the early 1990s.

The third is a fairly normal mom of three. Still pretty hot for a 50 something, she was married but is now divorced, she is a banker, put all three kids through school and is really the happiest of the three of them. Oh, yeah, she is a lesbian.

The four of us are absolute best friends. With the exception of the Rev trying to convert the Lesbian back to straight [I believe in an attempt to get laid] everyone fully supports everyone else's particular quirks. When Rev Jeff got arrested for protesting at an abortion clinic, he called me to bail him out. I don't agree with the protest but support his right to do so. I was there ASAP.

So, "show me who your friends are and I will show you who you are" is nonsense. The more people you know and the wider you cast your circle of experiences the more diverse your friends are. I have friends that live on the street and friends that count their wealth with a $B. Friends that are Arch Conservative, Arch Liberal, Libertarian, REAL Socialist [as opposed to the word conservatives throw around], Buddhists, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Christian, Agnostic and Atheist. And yes, I have a couple of friends that I would call racists [and I do call it to their face, even if one's nickname is Moose].

When a person has grown up in a diverse, cosmopolitan climate where they meet and interact with nearly everyone, how can one suggest "show me who your friends are and I will show you who you are"?

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Last week I had dinner with three very good friends that I have knows since they were eight to 14 and I was 16. One is a Fundamental Evangelist who is every bit as Rightwing NeoConservative as any person I know. My mind explodes at some of the things that come out of his mouth considering where he came from and how he grew up.

Another of the group is a former Democratic political consultant, now Glock and H&K rep for Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama. He and I spent several years in national combat handgun competitions in the early 1990s.

The third is a fairly normal mom of three. Still pretty hot for a 50 something, she was married but is now divorced, she is a banker, put all three kids through school and is really the happiest of the three of them. Oh, yeah, she is a lesbian.

The four of us are absolute best friends. With the exception of the Rev trying to convert the Lesbian back to straight [I believe in an attempt to get laid] everyone fully supports everyone else's particular quirks. When Rev Jeff got arrested for protesting at an abortion clinic, he called me to bail him out. I don't agree with the protest but support his right to do so. I was there ASAP.

So, "show me who your friends are and I will show you who you are" is nonsense. The more people you know and the wider you cast your circle of experiences the more diverse your friends are. I have friends that live on the street and friends that count their wealth with a $B. Friends that are Arch Conservative, Arch Liberal, Libertarian, REAL Socialist [as opposed to the word conservatives throw around], Buddhists, Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Christian, Agnostic and Atheist. And yes, I have a couple of friends that I would call racists [and I do call it to their face, even if one's nickname is Moose].

When a person has grown up in a diverse, cosmopolitan climate where they meet and interact with nearly everyone, how can one suggest "show me who your friends are and I will show you who you are"?
That is a weird bunch and its cool. None however are extremists, militant or racist to the point where they would attend gatherings that did nothing but deface a whole race of people for 20 years. Point to all their hardships and blame it on another race. Did they?. Show me your friends and I'll tell you who you are is more for judging character than anything else. Nobody expects you to turn into a Lesbian nicknamed "Moose" just because you hang with a lesbian and a guy nicknamed "moose". Despite the differences you have with the people you hang with, their are things you have in common that draw you to each other. What drew the Obama's to a racist like Wright?. Barracks parents were anti-American, both of them, that is fact. Barrack found Michelle, one in the same. Their common thread, both shared the same views and both are lanky. Together they found Wright and the church in order to surround themselves with more people that see things their way. The racist way.
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Now McBear, I know you're not so naive as to suppose your particulars are common. If they were then all police work would grind to a halt and "We Are the World" would be the international anthem.

Most people self-select to be with people with whom they believe they share the most in common. When we look at a city street or in the airport it LOOKS like a cosmopolitan population. But most neighborhoods are not mixed, though some are. Most people live, marry and associate with people in their own race and socioeconomic stratum. Is that an "-ism" problem? I don't think so until they act on it by say, red-lining and so forth.

It's a fact of our adaption to family/clan/tribe. Western society seems intent on undermining that connectedness in the name of equality. This we call "the rule of law". It's a wonderful experiment whose outcome is still unclear.

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