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How to get more of your money's worth for every gallon

1-Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early
morning when the
ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all
service stations
have their storage tanks buried below ground. The
colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it
gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the
afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not
exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the
specific gravity and the
temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel,
ethanol and other petroleum products plays an
important role.

2-A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for
this business. But
the service stations do not have temperature
compensation at the pumps.

3-When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of
the nozzle to a
fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger
has three
(3)stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you
should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the
vapors that are created while you are pumping. All
hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are
pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes
to your tank becomes vapor.
Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the
underground storage tank so you're getting less worth
for your money.

4-One of the most important tips is to fill up when
your gas tank is
HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the
more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying
its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you
can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal
floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance
between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes
the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I
work, every truck that we load is temperature
compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact
amount.

5-Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck
pumping into the
storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill
up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as
the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some
of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope
this will help you get the most value for your money.

DO SH ARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
READ ON

Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we
grumbled about it.
It might even be good for us! The Saudis are
boycotting American goods. We should return the favor!

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting
more money
into the coffers of Saudi Arabia . Just buy from gas
companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know
which oil
companies are the best to buy gas from.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil:

Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco ............................62,231,000 barrels

Citgo gas is from South America

Here are some large companies that do not import
Middle Eastern oil:

Sunoco................0 barrels
Conoco................0 barrels
Sinclair.................0 barrels
B P/Phillips...........0 barrels
Hess.....................0 barrels
ARC0....................0 barrels

If you go to Sunoco. com, you will get a list of the
station
locations near you.

All of this information is available from the
Department of Energy
and each is required to state where they get their
oil and how much they are importing.
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Good tips.
I don't know if I mentioned this but several chains of truck stops have installed heaters on their tanks. It's easily spotted as truck diesel is normally green but when heated turns white. I would not be surprised to see this practice applied to gasoline in the near future,

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I now want $25,000 for my 83 280SL.
For gas, or is that the selling price?

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1-Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early
morning when the
ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all
service stations
have their storage tanks buried below ground. The
colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it
gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the
afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not
exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the
specific gravity and the
temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel,
ethanol and other petroleum products plays an
important role.

2-A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for
this business. But
the service stations do not have temperature
compensation at the pumps.

3-When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of
the nozzle to a
fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger
has three
(3)stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you
should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the
vapors that are created while you are pumping. All
hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are
pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes
to your tank becomes vapor.
Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the
underground storage tank so you're getting less worth
for your money.

4-One of the most important tips is to fill up when
your gas tank is
HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the
more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying
its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you
can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal
floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance
between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes
the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I
work, every truck that we load is temperature
compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact
amount.

5-Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck
pumping into the
storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill
up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as
the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some
of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope
this will help you get the most value for your money.

DO SH ARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
READ ON

Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we
grumbled about it.
It might even be good for us! The Saudis are
boycotting American goods. We should return the favor!

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting
more money
into the coffers of Saudi Arabia . Just buy from gas
companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know
which oil
companies are the best to buy gas from.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil:

Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco ............................62,231,000 barrels

Citgo gas is from South America

Here are some large companies that do not import
Middle Eastern oil:

Sunoco................0 barrels
Conoco................0 barrels
Sinclair.................0 barrels
B P/Phillips...........0 barrels
Hess.....................0 barrels
ARC0....................0 barrels

If you go to Sunoco. com, you will get a list of the
station
locations near you.

All of this information is available from the
Department of Energy
and each is required to state where they get their
oil and how much they are importing.
That's very interesting. Now I would like to see the math based on buying 10 gallons a week for a year with a tempetaure differential average of 15C.Ice used to be kept in underground wells from winter until summer, so I imagine underground tanks are quite well insulated by their surroundings.
How many CC's of gasoline do you estimate are converted to vapour while pumping 10 gals fast compared to slow?
If you always fill-up from a half empty tank to full, how much gas are you wasting by hauling around an extra half tank of gas the whole time?

Perhaps simply using your right foot more gently would yield better economy, without all the logistics?

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Most of that stuff are myths. I am however working an alternate water based fuel; be patient, I will update everyone once I crack the secret.
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