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TX Supreme Court Rules Polygamist Sect Children Should Be Returned to Parents

AUSTIN — In a crushing blow to the state's massive seizure of children from a polygamist sect's ranch, the Texas Supreme Court ruled Thursday that child welfare officials overstepped their authority and the children should go back to their parents.

The high court affirmed a decision by an appellate court last week, saying Child Protective Services failed to show an immediate danger to the more than 400 children swept up from the Yearning For Zion Ranch nearly two months ago.

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Just because ONE court ruled ONE way does not make my assertion illogical. It only means that it did not agree with THAT court.

Note the subtle difference.
This was such a no-brainer I couldn't see how you'd miss it on its merits.

Child abuse is not a civil rights action and religious freedom is incredibly important in our jurisprudence.

And, yes, two courts have now disagreed with your assertion.

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This was such a no-brainer I couldn't see how you'd miss it on its merits.

Child abuse is not a civil rights action and religious freedom is incredibly important in our jurisprudence.

And, yes, two courts have now disagreed with your assertion.
As I said, earlier, the system worked as designed. The safety of the children was secured while due process was executed. Courts did their job.

As for asserting that everyone under one roof is suspect, that is not what I asserted. The warrant declared that the compound had activity where underage children were in danger. They had to sort that out.

Now, as for the assertion that "religious freedom is incredibly important in our jurisprudence", yes it is. But where adults have sex with minors, law trumps religious freedom. And where adults conduct child abuse, law trumps religious freedom. There were too many cases of both activities in the FLDS in Texas, Utah, and Arizona that there was a concern.

The important part is that the kids are safe, any activities [like those of Warren Jeffs] are now under the spotlight and kids safety will be insured. I am not sure where child abuse falls under Federal Civil Rights laws but it sure is covered under every states laws.

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As I said, earlier, the system worked as designed. The safety of the children was secured while due process was executed. Courts did their job.

As for asserting that everyone under one roof is suspect, that is not what I asserted. The warrant declared that the compound had activity where underage children were in danger. They had to sort that out.

Now, as for the assertion that "religious freedom is incredibly important in our jurisprudence", yes it is. But where adults have sex with minors, law trumps religious freedom. And where adults conduct child abuse, law trumps religious freedom. There were too many cases of both activities in the FLDS in Texas, Utah, and Arizona that there was a concern.

The important part is that the kids are safe, any activities [like those of Warren Jeffs] are now under the spotlight and kids safety will be insured. I am not sure where child abuse falls under Federal Civil Rights laws but it sure is covered under every states laws.
Like I said, despite your weasel words now, that was liberal intentions run amok with no results, unless you consider separating infants from their mothers, disrupting feeding schedules and being terrified of strangers as indicators of safety. There is no report yet about a member arrested for committing a crime, is there?

Since you like my analogies, let me give you another one: this was a search for WMDs (weapons of male domination) based on a lie which revealed the insidious effects of insurgents (a few pregnancies). Once these folks have undergone interrogation (DNA) we'll know who the true criminals are and we can blow up the compound. And announce, "Mission Accomplished."

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Sorry 'bear, but I think bottom' (and the 460 kids) wins this one...

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