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Looks like it's all bullshit again. This week wiped out anything you gained last week. This is not the symptoms of an expanding economy. It is anything but.

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BFD! The markets go up and down 5% all the time. Just because you see conspiracies around every corner doesn't mean others are not acting honestly and appropriately.
I don't see conspiracies. I see folks that want you to buy, buy, buy and they will say pretty much anything to make that happen. If you believe they yammer on low rated talk shows to hear their own voice and opinion, you are way more naive than I believe you to be.

Do you really believe that they are providing all that commentary for free just so you will be more affluent? It's the churn. Period. That's not conspiracy. That's creative marketing.

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I don't see conspiracies. I see folks that want you to buy, buy, buy and they will say pretty much anything to make that happen. If you believe they yammer on low rated talk shows to hear their own voice and opinion, you are way more naive than I believe you to be.

Do you really believe that they are providing all that commentary for free just so you will be more affluent? It's the churn. Period. That's not conspiracy. That's creative marketing.
Two of the reports I referenced were from Reuters and one AP, all written by professional journalists. Do you really think there is some type of conspiracy there and that they are just trying to fool us??? Come on bear! Your level of paranoia is really getting out of hand. Either that or I am just not understanding you...

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Two of the reports I referenced were from Reuters and one AP, all written by professional journalists. Do you really think there is some type of conspiracy there and that they are just trying to fool us??? Come on bear! Your level of paranoia is really getting out of hand. Either that or I am just not understanding you...

There could be a whole new forum started just based on the things you do not understand..........unfortunately most is already common knowledge and there would be no money in it........
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There could be a whole new forum started just based on the things you do not understand..........unfortunately most is already common knowledge and there would be no money in it........
But of course you're going to tell us you dumped your gold......right?

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But of course you're going to tell us you dumped your gold......right?

Never did, Inflation is coming........ The UK & the EU are forecasting higher interest rates due to Inflation and there is a good chance of stagflation.

Here is the next gift from China.......China's newest export: Inflation - MSN Money
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Bad news keep piling on

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Consumer confidence falls to near 16-year low - Stocks & economy - MSNBC.com

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Two of the reports I referenced were from Reuters and one AP, all written by professional journalists. Do you really think there is some type of conspiracy there and that they are just trying to fool us??? Come on bear! Your level of paranoia is really getting out of hand. Either that or I am just not understanding you...
Actually all three were CNBC reports [which means they culled the reports to post up]. The key has to do with who they talk to and what that person's position/motives are. If They are talking to pure academic economists, that is one thing but when the interviewed are always attached to brokerage houses and banks, then the money flow becomes a part of their opinion.

It is not a conspiracy, it is simple business. They are there to sell and the way they sell is by calming fears, whether the rationale behind that calming is justified or not. They have to do that.

A simple analogy is the used car salesman. He has to sell cars. He is going to sell you on the GOOD points of the prospective car that lit up your eyes. He is going to either downplay or not mention the bad points. That is how he makes a living. That is not a conspiracy, it is just expected business.

Now the spokesperson who is an economist for a brokerage house is expected to calm investors, to insure investors that their money is going to be safe and secure with them. His JOB is to make that case. He does it by selling you on the GOOD points of the economy that lite up your eyes. He is either going to downplay or not mention the bad points. Those are up to you to find out. That is how he makes a living. That is not a conspiracy, it is just expected business.

I have been to economic conferences with these guys and, when they are not on camera and not on record they are not always the same upbeat salesmen that you see/read in the media. They will tell you about the time the car spent as a taxi.

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Never did, Inflation is coming........ The UK & the EU are forecasting higher interest rates due to Inflation and there is a good chance of stagflation.

Here is the next gift from China.......China's newest export: Inflation - MSN Money
Now is not the time to sell gold. I think it will be in the 1200 range pretty soon.

As for China, they will be shutting down much of their production facilities around Beijing in July to clean up the air for the Olympics. That will provide shortages of staple supplies for those companies who use Kanban inventory management and failed to factor in that interruption.

Expect to see fluctuation in their inflation and trade numbers due to that.

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Actually all three were CNBC reports [which means they culled the reports to post up]. The key has to do with who they talk to and what that person's position/motives are. If They are talking to pure academic economists, that is one thing but when the interviewed are always attached to brokerage houses and banks, then the money flow becomes a part of their opinion.

It is not a conspiracy, it is simple business. They are there to sell and the way they sell is by calming fears, whether the rationale behind that calming is justified or not. They have to do that.

A simple analogy is the used car salesman. He has to sell cars. He is going to sell you on the GOOD points of the prospective car that lit up your eyes. He is going to either downplay or not mention the bad points. That is how he makes a living. That is not a conspiracy, it is just expected business.

Now the spokesperson who is an economist for a brokerage house is expected to calm investors, to insure investors that their money is going to be safe and secure with them. His JOB is to make that case. He does it by selling you on the GOOD points of the economy that lite up your eyes. He is either going to downplay or not mention the bad points. Those are up to you to find out. That is how he makes a living. That is not a conspiracy, it is just expected business.

I have been to economic conferences with these guys and, when they are not on camera and not on record they are not always the same upbeat salesmen that you see/read in the media. They will tell you about the time the car spent as a taxi.
More pure BearStuff! Those are legitimate press reports that happen to be reprinted on CNBC's Website--and I am sure elsewhere. This is how each report ends:

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Only one is a CNBC report...
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BTW: Did anyone happen to notice how many times this phrase appeared above? "It is not a conspiracy..." I think it was Hamlet who said "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Methinks ol' bear is a conspiracy theorist...

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