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so if Sedan is the American for saloon car
and American sedan's generally handle like an overfilled bucket of shite by our European standards.
Is this statement actually meaningful?
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Bilsteins and a heavier sway bar will make it handle like modern sedans.
The right decals, a wing and large can like exhaust tips will truly make it da bomb yo
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so if Sedan is the American for saloon car
and American sedan's generally handle like an overfilled bucket of shite by our European standards.
Is this statement actually meaningful?
If I understand the definition of a saloon car, it's nothing like the larger American sedans. We have sedans that come in three basic sizes. Seriously. I doubt there are many Crown Victoria cruisers tooling about the UK from what I've seen, since you have so little space to put roads and these cars are so large - uniquely American.

Your typical saloon car would be a lot more like a mid-sized sedan here. Ford Fusion; Toyota Camry; Chevy Malibu. Most of those are pieces of shit, which is why we go through all the trouble of importing the really good cars from Europe. That's not to say they all handle like overfilled buckets of shite. That Caddy probably tips the scales at 5,000 lbs or more...to get it to handle as if it were 1,000 lbs lighter would be a worthwhile investment.
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Shaner - sounds like $75k may in fact be overpriced. This link from 2006, quasi-related.

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Although this looks identical to the 1958 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham we featured last issue (Beautiful Retaliation, page 56), there are slight differences. For one thing, this one’s a ’57. For another, it’s slightly smaller. But consider the price difference! The featured ’58 car, owned by noted Cadillac collector, Steven Plunkett, is worth about $60,000.
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Bilsteins and a heavier sway bar will make it handle like modern sedans.
Removing the factory air suspension setup hinders resale value so no 'steins. Larger diameter anti roll bars don't help that much on this type of arrangement. Try the bars, 'steins, and poly bushings on most older rides and you will see the trade off is typically very favorable in steel and coil set ups. There really isn't much science to suspensions sadly. Mock all you want.
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Shaner - sounds like $75k may in fact be overpriced. This link from 2006, quasi-related.

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Although this looks identical to the 1958 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham we featured last issue (Beautiful Retaliation, page 56), there are slight differences. For one thing, this one’s a ’57. For another, it’s slightly smaller. But consider the price difference! The featured ’58 car, owned by noted Cadillac collector, Steven Plunkett, is worth about $60,000.
Two years ago the prices were slightly cheaper and condition means everything on old cars. Everything. The EB's have increased but are now getting dragged down by the poor economy. I am just trying to convince the seller of this. He is waiting for a big buck Euro dude but Euro dudes who pay this much are far and few between. Big bucks are still to be had for simpleton race cars with some famous driver history. BTW, I have a few model cars and they appear to be far, far, less maintenance than the real thing. Go figure.

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Thanks, I will. The love fest was getting a bit out of hand. Universal harmony in a Shane thread is not unlike crossing the streams of unlicensed nuclear accelerators.

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Thanks, I will. The love fest was getting a bit out of hand. Universal harmony in a Shane thread is not unlike crossing the streams of unlicensed nuclear accelerators.
You make me sound irritable. That hurts my feelings. What ever those are. Did you know it has been proven in scientific labs and in nature itself that wolves eat cats sometimes? Just thought your day would be all the richer for this tidbit of information. No need to thank me, just an insult will do.
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fuck off, twit
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fuck off, twit

Not you you knuckle dragging, constant drooling, dolt of a liberal who wants to impose your lazy values on the rest of the world because you think you have reached some epiphany the rest of us cannot see when in fact it is merely a choice. Go tie dye your nut sack and let others do their own thinking.
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