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President Abraham Lincoln stated, 'Congressmen who wilfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged!'

America's first Republican President. That "with us or agin' us" crap started early.

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President Abraham Lincoln stated, 'Congressmen who wilfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged!'
Too bad there is not the balls to follow through with a statement like that, at least not these days.
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Too bad there is not the balls to follow through with a statement like that, at least not these days.
He was a man of his time. Too bad that you are too,when the rest of us are living in the 21st century,not the 19th.

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No taxation without representation

What do I get for my federal taxes? Our public schools are failing, Social Security is insolvent, Medicare & Medicaid are run by a corrupt government that uses taxpayer money to overpay the corporations that run it. Our military is in shambles, our economy is on the brink of complete collapse and all our leaders can think of to do in order to solve the problem is to use our tax dollars to bail out the mistakes of corporations while Americans end up homeless and broke. And stuck with the bill.

Do people understand how much money we have spent in Iraq? Seriously really, get a grip and really GET how much money has gone down the hole? And even if they do, do they realize that the Iraq bill, from a dollar perspective, HASN'T COME DUE YET??? The shit going on with the economy right now has NOTHING to do with the THREE FUCKING TRILLION DOLLARS that this clusterfuck in Iraq will eventually cost us.

$3,000,000,000,000 / 300,000,000 = $10,000/ea.

That means that RIGHT NOW, without ANY interest, each and every American in this country is in for $10 fucking K. On top of our current federal and state income tax burden.

Now, I pay for electricity. I pay for internet. I pay for television and I pay for my phone. The tax I pay at the pump covers most of the cash either state or federal government spend on shit like road repairs, but whatever. I pay for the gas to heat my home and cook my food. I pay a shitload at the hospital and even pay tax on some of that shit. I pay sales tax. I even pay retail tax, even though the corporations pass ALL their taxes on to me when I buy their shit. So what the fuck do I get?

A military that is now broken. An infrastructure that is crumbling. A justice system that favors their own, the rich and the politicians, and if to add insult to injury, herd me like a fucking piece of cattle and actually go out of their way to find a reason to make me pay them for some bullshit slight.

So what the hell is a rational guy supposed to do? What did our forefathers do, when faced with this kind of bogus farce of representation, when bullied into paying for something they don't even want or need?

When a man with a checkbook has greater sway than a million voices, OR EVEN ONE FUCKING VOICE, then hasn't our grievance become that of the founders of this country?

No taxation without representation

nah, why bother.. the real patriots just move out of the country and join 'them'.



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I like your little sig line:

President Abraham Lincoln stated, 'Congressmen who wilfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged!'

America's first Republican President. That "with us or agin' us" crap started early.

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Too bad there is not the balls to follow through with a statement like that, at least not these days.
True, wouldn't want that First Amendment, Checks and Balances or Democracy to get in the way of a good strategery.

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