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Hey, having a peeve doesn't mean I have a general solution!

In my case, I have been planting trees & shrubs that are mostly native to this area. All of them are good wildlife and/bird food and/or nectar producers. That they shade the ground and kill-off the grass is a definite plus.

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Lawns are one of my pet peeves about American culture.
yeah, tell it to those idiots with antifreeze green lawns laden with chemicals creating unnecessary runoffs, Subzero fridges and Gaggeneau cooktops but still order in from local Chinese takeout five times a week.



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You know why we have lawns? Because Frederick Olmstead studied the English country estates and thought the "lawns" (often the commons) were grand. Those lawns were maintained by over-grazing sheep, but that's another story (read "Tragedy of the Commons").

So he began incorporating lawns into the megawealthy estates of the eastern seaboard. See, our plutocrats, for all their money, had English nobility envy. If some clown with a title in England had a lawn then the plutocrat should have one, too. And speaking of sheep, the American middleclass wanted to feel like a Cabot or a Vanderbilt (a second derivative English Nobleman) so he had to have a lawn, too. Nevermind that the lawn is an imitation of an overgrazed sheep pasture. Did the Vanderbilts and the folks in Levitown have sheep to keep their pasturage over-grazed? NO! So being innovative Americans, we develop mechanical sheep. Also had to develop artificial poop because well, artificial sheep don't make anything more than atmospheric pollutants.

So every week you go out there and push your mechanical sheep across your overgrazed pasture, thank Olmstead.

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I live in an area where you can face fines for planting non-native trees and shrubs.

But shade? Shade is just a distant dream, I'm afraid...

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Hey, having a peeve doesn't mean I have a general solution!

In my case, I have been planting trees & shrubs that are mostly native to this area. All of them are good wildlife and/bird food and/or nectar producers. That they shade the ground and kill-off the grass is a definite plus.

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I understand that, I just think you should consider the ecological benefits of grass versus some of the alternatives. Your botanistic side may thank you.
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I understand that, I just think you should consider the ecological benefits of grass versus some of the alternatives. Your botanistic side may thank you.
Oh I do, I do. That's why I treat my lawn as I do -- contemptuously and with disdain as I slowly abuse it into non-existence.

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Native grasses are the way to go and I don't mean injun, TK.
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So, a few things.

1) We actually have a lot of land in the USA....so why not?
2) It's tough for kids to play catch with the dogs or with pops with all the trees and underbrush left around.
3) God only knows what kind of animals & bugs can lurk around in that kind of shit.
4) Dirt + torrential rain = mud pit. Not very attractive.
1. And make the entire US a uniform landscape of Levittown with pink flamingoes gracing the front lawn of every house.
2. Many municipalities with vision and foresight have poured their resources into creating excellent public parks with playing fields and playgrounds.
3. tsk, tsk, typical man vs. nature where man has to prevail in controlling nature attitude. Even a well tended lawn can harbor ticks - it's an inevitable fact of life especially here in the Northeast. Might as well reintroduce local vegetation that supports mini-ecosystem and enjoy discovering with the kids how full of life the backyard is. The very fact that you use the term 'bugs' to describe all insect life I find it a lost opportunity.
4. A little ingenuity in planting and ever slight manipulation of ground plane can do wonders to drainage. Not all ground surfaces not covered by lawn has to be dirt. Then again, I have not visited Oklahoma therefore I do not know if the term dust bowl is an understatement.

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In deference to desert dwellers, pouring a bunch of lava rocks (interesting how they're also found in propane barbecue grills) on the yard and calling it done isn't exactly a workable solution for the rest of the country.

So, if it's not grass, what else is a civilized society to do with the ground surrounding thier abodes??!?
I hear ya.
Think locally, act globally.

I found clovers make just as attractive groundcover (they flower too) in lieu of lawn in my area of country, and especially at my property which is predominantly a north-facing slope where maintaining a lawn can be often costly and a losing battle. Add to that pachysandra borders accented with ferns and forsythia bush and I have 90% of the 1-acre grounds covered.

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A grass lawn is just Satan's merkin vexing us in a mocking fashion
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I also mowed my grass this week and I ran over some dog shit, and one turd made it all the way to Louiesville. Just ask yosey.

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A grass lawn is just Satan's merkin vexing us in a mocking fashion
I am gradually paving mine over. My next project will be a wide, black ribbon of asphalt that will connect the back end of my recently elongated concrete driveway with the front end of my parking pad (destined to become the floor of my garage).

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