Glenn Beck Stumbles Headlong Into Irrelevancy - Page 6 - Mercedes-Benz Forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #51 of 185 (permalink) Old 04-05-2008, 01:39 PM Thread Starter
Surely A Large Human
 
Qubes's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jun 2006
Vehicle: '08 C219
Location: Between Earth and Mars
Posts: 34,619
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Quoted: 640 Post(s)
Lifetime Premium Member
(Thread Starter)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayhawk View Post
Thanks Ed! You may be right. I just don't care enough to research the details. Plus I know from past years that Big Oil makes far less, on a percentage basis, than most other businesses. And that if weren't for their size they might very well be in trouble, like so many other businesses are today.
This is the single least relevant justification for continuing government subsidies of behemoth oil companies anyone has ever uttered.
Qubes is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #52 of 185 (permalink) Old 04-05-2008, 03:20 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Jayhawk's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2005
Vehicle: S500/W220/2000
Location: Lawrence, KS (USA)
Posts: 21,652
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Let me remind everyone here that oil companies do not pay taxes--WE DO! The more we try to punish oil companies the more we will pay for their products. They just pass it on to us! Also, a tax on domestic energy production and development means one thing: an increased reliance on foreign oil and gasoline. Eliminating oil industry tax breaks and subsidies would set a bad example overseas and discourage new industry investments.

Don't believe everything you think
Jayhawk is offline  
post #53 of 185 (permalink) Old 04-05-2008, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
Surely A Large Human
 
Qubes's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jun 2006
Vehicle: '08 C219
Location: Between Earth and Mars
Posts: 34,619
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Quoted: 640 Post(s)
Lifetime Premium Member
(Thread Starter)
^ That was equally delusional and misinformed. Tell me, please, o fiscal wizard; WHY do you think gasoline prices have gone up exponentially in the past 4 years, while oil companies have generated record levels of profit? Secondly, WHY does an industry which experienced a sudden spike resulting in making more in net profit than any other industry - in the history of mankind, ever - need ANY public funds for ANYTHING?

Last edited by Qubes; 04-05-2008 at 04:00 PM.
Qubes is offline  
post #54 of 185 (permalink) Old 04-05-2008, 04:07 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Jayhawk's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2005
Vehicle: S500/W220/2000
Location: Lawrence, KS (USA)
Posts: 21,652
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by QBNCGAR View Post
^ That was equally delusional and misinformed. Tell me, please, o fiscal wizard; WHY do you think gasoline prices have gone up exponentially in the past 4 years, while oil companies have generated record levels of profit? Secondly, WHY does an industry which experienced a sudden spike resulting in making more in net profit than any other industry - in the history of mankind, ever - need ANY public funds for ANYTHING?
I think it's called the basic principle of "Supply and Demand" you idiot!

Don't believe everything you think
Jayhawk is offline  
post #55 of 185 (permalink) Old 04-05-2008, 04:38 PM Thread Starter
Surely A Large Human
 
Qubes's Avatar
 
Date registered: Jun 2006
Vehicle: '08 C219
Location: Between Earth and Mars
Posts: 34,619
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Quoted: 640 Post(s)
Lifetime Premium Member
(Thread Starter)
Well, that's an interesting theory, because supplies (read:surpluses) are outpacing demand, have been for a year, yet the price keeps going up. If you'd read my other post on the topic, you'd know that.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/off-...-shortage.html

You idiot.

Last edited by Qubes; 04-05-2008 at 04:43 PM.
Qubes is offline  
post #56 of 185 (permalink) Old 04-05-2008, 06:13 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mcbear's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2004
Vehicle: E500Es
Location: The BlueGrass State
Posts: 29,579
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by McBear
I do. And I have also tried collecting a legitimate debt from a large corporation and found that their "vigorous defense" often consists of wearing the plaintiff down with years of mind numbing legal masturbation in hopes they will go away.

So I am a bit conflicted on this one as I both respect the rights of the defendant and have watched the defendents use the law as a blunt instrument to avoid responsibility.

EDIT: I was told by their counsel that they had more "Fuck You Money" than I did if that puts it in perspective.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Botnst View Post
That's the risk one takes to have equal access to the courts.

It's a funny world.

B
But this brings us back to our discussion on another thread of the difference between the somewhat objective skepticism and the more subjective cynicism. I am fundamentally more cynical of folks like Exxon based on their motives, means and actions. That cynicism is what drives folks mistrust of Exxon on their offshore drilling policies and it what drives their anger at their manipulation of energy prices.

McBear,
Kentucky

Being smart is knowing the difference, in a sticky situation between a well delivered anecdote and a well delivered antidote - bear.
mcbear is offline  
post #57 of 185 (permalink) Old 04-05-2008, 06:20 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: 95 E300
Location: Inside my head
Posts: 36,850
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 392 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbear View Post
But this brings us back to our discussion on another thread of the difference between the somewhat objective skepticism and the more subjective cynicism. I am fundamentally more cynical of folks like Exxon based on their motives, means and actions. That cynicism is what drives folks mistrust of Exxon on their offshore drilling policies and it what drives their anger at their manipulation of energy prices.
I think you accurately characterized the effect of cynicism on objective analysis.

The biggest problems we are facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all and thats what I intend to reverse.

~ Senator Barack H. Obama
Botnst is offline  
post #58 of 185 (permalink) Old 04-05-2008, 06:27 PM
DP
Moderator
 
DP's Avatar
 
Date registered: Aug 2002
Vehicle: 190E, 400E, SLK350
Location: Chesapeak Bay
Posts: 64,453
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Quoted: 1120 Post(s)
Lifetime Premium Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyboyike View Post
No worries, Ronald. President Kwansaa (or however they spell it this week) will make it all better lickety-split.

Just because of your disdain, I will be celebrating Kwanza whenever it comes along I will even wear some African attire and pick a flight that you're piloting just so I can fuk with you. Yeah, I will the loud one seat 1A first fkin class, now serve me my coffe biatch...and don't forget my peanuts too

Last edited by DP; 04-05-2008 at 06:31 PM.
DP is online now  
post #59 of 185 (permalink) Old 04-05-2008, 06:27 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mcbear's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2004
Vehicle: E500Es
Location: The BlueGrass State
Posts: 29,579
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by McBear
I suppose. When you get into the "hard sciences" or business classes I think you are at least as likely to find conservative Professors as liberal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayhawk View Post
Geeze bear! You've got to get a grip on reality... Even the numbest among us know better than that. Here's a recent study for you to chew on...

College Faculties A Most Liberal Lot, Study Finds (washingtonpost.com)

"College faculties, long assumed to be a liberal bastion, lean further to the left than even the most conspiratorial conservatives might have imagined, a new study says.

By their own description, 72 percent of those teaching at American universities and colleges are liberal and 15 percent are conservative, says the study being published this week. The imbalance is almost as striking in partisan terms, with 50 percent of the faculty members surveyed identifying themselves as Democrats and 11 percent as Republicans. The disparity is even more pronounced at the most elite schools, where, according to the study, 87 percent of faculty are liberal and 13 percent are conservative..."
As I was pointing out in my post, I have found that in Business and Economics and Engineering Science that the mix has been pretty even.

I am well aware that in the full aggregate more Professors tend to be Liberal than Conservative. It just makes logical sense. The people who chose Education as a calling tend to be those who are interested in the well being and enrichment of the masses, natural Liberal tendencies. Duh.

As you get into Business/Economics and Engineering you tend to get more technical minded people and the political mix would, logically be less significant to their choice of profession.

McBear,
Kentucky

Being smart is knowing the difference, in a sticky situation between a well delivered anecdote and a well delivered antidote - bear.
mcbear is offline  
post #60 of 185 (permalink) Old 04-05-2008, 06:33 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mcbear's Avatar
 
Date registered: Apr 2004
Vehicle: E500Es
Location: The BlueGrass State
Posts: 29,579
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jayhawk View Post
Let me remind everyone here that oil companies do not pay taxes--WE DO! The more we try to punish oil companies the more we will pay for their products. They just pass it on to us! Also, a tax on domestic energy production and development means one thing: an increased reliance on foreign oil and gasoline. Eliminating oil industry tax breaks and subsidies would set a bad example overseas and discourage new industry investments.
So if you eliminated the tax breaks for the American Companies you are suggesting they would raise their prices but then the free market of Foreign based Oil Companies who DON'T get tax breaks would not keep the market in check by maintaining their current price structures?

I think I see little cracks in your cunning logic.

McBear,
Kentucky

Being smart is knowing the difference, in a sticky situation between a well delivered anecdote and a well delivered antidote - bear.
mcbear is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Mercedes-Benz Forums > Off-Topic

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Mercedes-Benz Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Topic Author Forum Replies Last Post
K&N Air Filter vs. a Standard Beck/Arnley SSgt Hurley W126 S,SE,SEC,SEL,SD,SDL Class 19 06-25-2008 12:02 PM
Former All-Star closer Rod Beck dies at 38 GeeS Off-Topic 7 06-24-2007 08:38 PM
HELP!!!! , Can’t open beck doors KD c320 W203 C-Class 6 02-11-2007 08:59 PM
Stumbles thsncc1701 W124 E,CE,D,TD Class 0 01-02-2005 09:45 PM
Glenn, did you get your trophy for the acceleration runs at Tri-O-Rama? Bruce R. - - D.C . R170 SLK-Class 2 08-17-2001 02:16 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 

Title goes here

close
video goes here
description goes here. Read Full Story
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome