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Of course. But you hurried to say :

This is either propaganda against Islam or the result of propaganda against Islam.



I know christian clergymen keep changing things. Jesus became God and son of God only after his (alleged) death and the the Holy Spirit was added at some Council of Nicaea a few centuries later.

We don't change things. We found nothing in the Quran about it and scholars have different opinions expalining why a couple of apostates were put to death in the days of Prophet Muahmmed.. was the punishment for apostasy or treason?



Egyptian Copts advocate and practice torture in church and shootings in the back when threatening doesn't work, especially for priest converts.
You don't like Christianity? Fine with me. You can say whatever you like about it and even make cartoons of whatever Christian stimulates your ire. I promise not to cut off your head.

Concerning apostasy and Islam, ... The Punishment for Apostasy from Islam

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Of course. But you hurried to say :

This is either propaganda against Islam or the result of propaganda against Islam.



I know christian clergymen keep changing things. Jesus became God and son of God only after his (alleged) death and the the Holy Spirit was added at some Council of Nicaea a few centuries later.

We don't change things. We found nothing in the Quran about it and scholars have different opinions expalining why a couple of apostates were put to death in the days of Prophet Muahmmed.. was the punishment for apostasy or treason?



Egyptian Copts advocate and practice torture in church and shootings in the back when threatening doesn't work, especially for priest converts.
Aren't archaic religions wonderful? Dogma twisted and turned for maximum convenience and ultimately,misery.
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You don't like Christianity? Fine with me. You can say whatever you like about it and even make cartoons of whatever Christian stimulates your ire. I promise not to cut off your head.

Concerning apostasy and Islam, ...

I don't feel like doing that. It won't make me feel any better about myself nor will help melt down the ice between followers of the two faiths.

The site is blocked here maybe becuse it's full of hatred. Anything new there?


We apologize the site you are attempting to visit has been blocked due to its content being inconsistent with the religious, cultural, political and moral values of the United Arab Emirates.

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The site is blocked to protect your immortal soul.

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I don't feel like doing that. It won't make me feel any better about myself nor will help melt down the ice between followers of the two faiths.

The site is blocked here maybe becuse it's full of hatred. Anything new there?


We apologize the site you are attempting to visit has been blocked due to its content being inconsistent with the religious, cultural, political and moral values of the United Arab Emirates.

If you think this site should not be blocked, please visit the Feedback Form available on our website.
WTF
We triggered the UAE's speech stifling system. How in the hell do Muslims want us to understand their religion and culture if they don't encourage OPEN and HONEST discussion?
Mr. UAE Censorship and Virtue Control guy bring this filter down if you even expect us at the end of the day to respect your cultural, political and moral values. I know you're reading this
I hope that you will not be sending some of your "secret" agents to Talhoube's house because she tried to have a discussion with "filthy American pigs". I think that she did not see us in that angle and I hope you learn from her rather than censor her Internet access; maybe you will learn something out of this thread and you will find out that we're really not pigs, filthy maybe but not pigs.
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We triggered the UAE's speech stifling system. How in the hell do Muslims want us to understand their religion and culture if they don't encourage OPEN and HONEST discussion?
Mr. UAE Censorship and Virtue Control guy bring this filter down if you even expect us at the end of the day to respect your cultural, political and moral values. I know you're reading this
I hope that you will not be sending some of your "secret" agents to Talhoube's house because she tried to have a discussion with "filthy American pigs". I think that she did not see us in that angle and I hope you learn from her rather than censor her Internet access; maybe you will learn something out of this thread and you will find out that we're really not pigs, filthy maybe but not pigs.

Speak for yourself,porky.








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I don't feel like doing that. It won't make me feel any better about myself nor will help melt down the ice between followers of the two faiths.

The site is blocked here maybe becuse it's full of hatred. Anything new there?


We apologize the site you are attempting to visit has been blocked due to its content being inconsistent with the religious, cultural, political and moral values of the United Arab Emirates.

If you think this site should not be blocked, please visit the Feedback Form available on our website.
Well, I think that pretty much sums up the argument "against".
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Guys, it's not that bad here. Actually it's very much better than most Arab countries. I don't want to criticise some other Arab countries,though, because I might be travelling there soon I'm serious.

UAE ususally blocks site of pornographic content, terrorism (like forums where Osama bin Laden releases audio/video material) and hatred-inciting sites. I was a regular at an Arab Christian forum where a lot of extremist views were expressed from both muslim and christian sides. It wasn't blocked as most of the posts were of moderate nature. Some christian members used to post links to coptic forums that were blocked, too. I had this little trick of pressing the link several times until it opened. There, I read some of the most disgusting, hate-promoting lies human mind at its worst twisted nature can ever come up with. I wonder to whose benefit this is done. Muslims and christians in the Arab world have lived together for ages now. My mother's neighbour is a christian old lady with high blood pressure. When she feels ill, she calls my mother to read her some Quran until the doctor arrives (Strange, eh? She's atheist anyway and doesn't believe in God altogether but was born Christian). Ironically, the management of the site, American of Egyptian Coptic background, suspended my membership and deleted some of my posts and replies. I signed up with a new username again to be blocked and every trace of my second account was erased. I got angry and decided not to waste my time again.

Honestly, I'm glad the UAE blocks porn but not so keen on blocking some other sites. Sometimes we need to know what's going on.
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It's like having one's Mum and Daddy always alert and near at hand for one's whole life. I can hardly imagine the wonderful feeling that would offer.

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Exactly. But it's not all bad, especially the blockage of porn. I don't want a porn site ad to pop in my son's/daughter's face when one is doing homework or playing a game online.
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