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Old 03-18-2008, 09:41 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Yes I have been in black churches. One of my best friends is a black minister! And nothing or no one can excuse the racist hate speech of Obambi's minister, no matter how hard you try.
Be honest BillHawk, you don't have any friends. That was just a line of bullshit to puff yourself up on an internet forum. Jim
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:43 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Made clear in this thread is that among Barack Obama's many virtues is the fact that his very existence, along with the moral integrity he demonstrates, pisses off all the right people
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:45 PM   #63 (permalink)
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For him to call you a murder or a potential murder does do away with anything that was coherent in he blessing of barack.

IMO, puts him on the same level as pastor wright.
Sounds like you have been drinking again. Too much for you to comprehend - a black man as POTUS. Wow.

And you would be a much bigger man if you were half the man Reverend Wright is. Where is your thirty years helping poor inner city people? Oh, yeah, doesn't exist. But you are sure he is something contemptible. Jim
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Old 03-19-2008, 03:23 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Did you watch the man give the speech on Racism in America today? If not, google it, find a website running it and spend the time. A deeply thoughtful and meaningful speech delivered without any fumbling and mumbling or dropping cue cards or mishearing the guy in his ear ..... Obama gave a speech that has been inside him his entire life. No doubt, he knows what he is all about, and what this nation is all about. His tactics are intentional and unifying this nation is the highest priority, more than any other single "platform" issue of either political party. Glad to see someone not only sees it but is committed to it. Now, just hope he can become elected before some cracker like JayReilly or cmitch assassinates him. Jim

Well something has gone wrong in the mix, Jim Smith and I finally agree on something................
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:04 AM   #65 (permalink)
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Sounds like you have been drinking again. Too much for you to comprehend - a black man as POTUS. Wow.

And you would be a much bigger man if you were half the man Reverend Wright is. Where is your thirty years helping poor inner city people? Oh, yeah, doesn't exist. But you are sure he is something contemptible. Jim
He helped the inner city people by teaching them to hate on whitey and hate on America. How can that be acceptible to you?. You think all of this hate teaching and America hating should be in the god damn White House?. I dont think so. We cannot have a President that hates 85% of the population.
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He helped the inner city people by teaching them to hate on whitey and hate on America. How can that be acceptible to you?. You think all of this hate teaching and America hating should be in the god damn White House?. I dont think so. We cannot have a President that hates 85% of the population.

Obama does not hate 85% of the population of America. He only hates those old uppity mercedes driving white guys living in Florida that voted for Billary..............
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Aint I glad that there is such an atmosphere of peaceful friendly cooperation afoot in America.
Substituting religion for race or political creed and you got the N Ireland ? Irish dimension pretty well summed up.
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:54 AM   #68 (permalink)
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The man can speak all he wants, but I think his wife said it all when she said:

"Let me tell you something. For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country, because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback."

It tells me she was truly listening to her Pastor's words, and agreeing with them. She is Barack's wife, and will always have his ear, no matter what.
If she feels that way, you can bet Barack does as well, no matter what he might say on the campaign trail.
All I hear from this guy is change; just what kind of change is he planning?
He has never stated that, and I wonder if anyone here can say just what, with absolute or even reasonable, certainty.

Talk is cheap, especially if you don't say anything....................
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Old 03-19-2008, 04:55 AM   #69 (permalink)
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It was a good speech, but then we all know he is good at speeches and not much else. I can understand most of what he said, though I believe it was all for political ends--he just wants to get elected--and not much more. I do not believe he really believed half of what he said, but even if he did, what he said will not change the fact that he spent most of his life in close association w/ that racist Rev. of hate speech. Nothing he, or anyone else, says about it will ever change the reality of his racist upbringing. If you are being intellectually honest you will have to admit that the damage is done and cannot be undone, even by his fancy specifying. It is over. He is toast. And if you don't believe me just wait for the primary results in PA.
Wow, what happened to your optimism all of a sudden?
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I guess America wants the total opposite of Bush now both colorwise and speechwise, I really dont know why everyone has such a hard on for a black guy named BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. For crying the fuck out, what the hell is up with that?. He hasn't accomplished shit in his time in politics. He's an ex Cocaine user (is there really an ex?), he sides with Oprah and his biggot Pastor/Church..........................oh fuck this!
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God damn!. You and I finally fucking agree on something!. Fuck Obama and his whole campaign!.
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And what is it about Obama's fucking past that makes him deserving of the Presidency?. His record?.......what fucking record is that?. His accomplishments?...............Where the fuck are they?. His speeches, ahhh, is that it?. The ones that are wrote for him just like anyone else?. You like how he reads them? You fucking asswipe. What makes Obama such a "good man"?. The fact that he was a habitual Cocaine user? or is it because he "wouldn't have" voted for the Iraq war?. Not that anyone ever asked for his opinion at the time so its pretty fucking easy to say he wouldn't have but he is also on record as saying he doesn't know how he would have voted if he actually did vote for/against the war. Or do you like him so much because he grew up around biggots and anti-Americans his whole life?. America is not ready for this dark spot in our history. Hillary in '08!
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Most of it is true?. WTF does that mean?. I have never owned a fucking slave therefore I never oppressed any black person. I'm sick and tired of being told I owe the black man for ANYTHING!. Does an antendee of a church that is racist make him racist?, not if its a one time occurrence but if its over a span of over 20 fucking years it does. Can you imagine for a second the backlash over a white Pastor giving a similar speach about black people?. This is nothing compared to that. Obama sitting up there telling us his Pastor is still a good man despite all this crap is apallling!. Notice that massive amounts of black new reporters lately?. Remember what happened to Imus?, remember OJ?, remember almost every black person in the USA jumping for joy when OJ was aquitted even though he fucking MURDERED his ex and her friend?. EVERYTHING has been swinging towards the blacks for a long time now, Obama just opened up a can of worms and its gonna remind people about the whole black/white situation all over again. The negro college funds, the BET network the damn rappers, the whole fucking enchilada. This whole thing became racist when Oprah backed the fucker.

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