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Old 03-24-2008, 02:51 PM   #491 (permalink)
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You know what I think? I think we should go ahead and elect Obama, just to get that whole race thing out of our collective system. I mean, I suppose we do owe LaShawn and Shamiqua that much. Make Barack President and when after four (or eight) years LaShawn is still shuttling between the ghetto and the slammer and Shamiqua is still doing nothing but having babies, we can finally move on.
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:55 PM   #492 (permalink)
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^ We have a new winner of today's "Starched White Sheet" award.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:01 PM   #494 (permalink)
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^ We have a new winner of today's "Starched White Sheet" award.
What, no mention of Kirkegaard? What gives?
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:17 PM   #495 (permalink)
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What, no mention of Kirkegaard? What gives?
I'm looking for a philosopher not to reference whose name is more difficult to spell. Got any suggestions?
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:34 PM   #496 (permalink)
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So, you're okay with Strom Thurmond & Robert Byrd's sheet-wearing youth? I mean, that was long ago and not really indicative of the many wonderful things they did.

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I have a father in law who is as sweet a guy to his grandchildren, as they could ever wish for. He is also a hard headed verbal racist in the presence of his family, particularly in this time of a black Presidential candidate. I will still go (yesterday) to his home for Easter dinner. And when he says -(when "have you ever tried collard greens" becomes part of a conversation)- "If Obama gets elected you'll have to eat those all the time"... then I will disagree with him as politely as I can. Whether it's through a doubtful look and tilt of the head, or a "there are good and bad people of every sort" remark.
What I think about 'black' people and 'white' people being no different than star-bellied Sneeches vs. those that have none ~in all that matters most~ in the end, won't change 'his' thinking on the matter. But his grandkids get indoctrinated by me on that, and they know without a doubt how I feel about judging people based on their race.
As a grandfather to them he does the yeoman's work quite well as Byrd and Thurmond did perhaps for their constituencies, but I only get to have my say on Pennsylvanian politicians.
I do believe, that when confronted with offensive thoughts, "I disagree" is a better start than "go to hell". And even if I can't change him, I know there is someone in some circumstance that can. Though that day may never come, it can't kill us to prepare for it.

Hope that's not too incoherent.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:42 PM   #497 (permalink)
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You know what I think? I think we should go ahead and elect Obama, just to get that whole race thing out of our collective system. I mean, I suppose we do owe LaShawn and Shamiqua that much. Make Barack President and when after four (or eight) years LaShawn is still shuttling between the ghetto and the slammer and Shamiqua is still doing nothing but having babies, we can finally move on.
Can we say stereotyping? Why am I not surprised that guys like you are dead set on not having a man like Obama have a chance at the presidency? When do you think we're ready for a black president? Will you be happier with a token black man running for the presidency with no chance of getting it just so you can feel good about how you live in a democracy? Is this man too real and possibly can get the nomination that it's making you so uncomfortable? Did it come too soon maybe? Are we not ready?
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What, no mention of Kirkegaard? What gives?
Sure you're not from Edina?
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I'm looking for a philosopher not to reference whose name is more difficult to spell. Got any suggestions?
Kant think of any off-hand....
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.

Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.

David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, [some versions have 'Schopenhauer and Hegel']

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.

Plato, they say, could stick it away--
Half a crate of whisky every day.

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle.
Hobbes was fond of his dram,

And René Descartes was a drunken fart.
'I drink, therefore I am.'

Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed,
A lovely little thinker,
But a bugger when he's pissed.
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