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Suggesting Obambi has "moral integrity" ignores his lies about not really knowing his minister, mentor and best friend. You guys just can't accept the fact that there is a Religious Left in this country and that Obambi subscribes to their racist hate speech agenda. Get over it! It is a fact!!
If you believe what you say above, are you not you afraid...............
OK, I'll bite just where and HOW has he employed this sound judgment that you seem to think he has?
He demonstrated enough judgment to exclude himself from all of the other accomplices on Capital Hill to the wanton act of profiteering and mass murder that continues to be committed in Iraq. That alone, places him head and shoulders above the other two candidates.
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That record did little to indicate their effectiveness as CIC.
I would beg to differ with you. If they were not effective they would not have been able to get to those positions would they? Apparently someone thought they were very effective didn't they?
Non-sequitur alert. Read what I wrote again -- more carefully this time. I suggested that their performance as POTUS could not be predicted by their prior experience.
Sounds like you have been drinking again. Too much for you to comprehend - a black man as POTUS. Wow.
And you would be a much bigger man if you were half the man Reverend Wright is. Where is your thirty years helping poor inner city people? Oh, yeah, doesn't exist. But you are sure he is something contemptible. Jim
Obambi is a dues-paying member of the intolerant Religious Left in this country, as embodied by Rev. Wright. Obambi is no better than the supporters of the Rev. Fred Phelps, pastor of the Westboro Baptist Church. They are one-in-the-same yet on opposite ends of the religious intolerance continuum.
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Obambi is a dues-paying member of the intolerant Religious Left in this country, as embodied by Rev. Wright. Obambi is no better than the supporters of the Rev. Fred Phelps, pastor of the Westboro Baptist Church. They are one-in-the-same yet on opposite ends of the religious intolerance continuum.
I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that Wright still gets more pussy than you...................
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I think the primary consideration is what the candidate's vision for this country is. Obama puts forth the only new ideas, as far as I can see. He represents a break from the past that is badly needed in this country.
OK, fine,let's go with that! What has your man done in the past to back up what both you and he say? I don't give a rat's butt about what "they" say, it's actions that prove what a man is worth. WHAT HAS HE DONE?
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BTW, Abraham Lincoln served only one term in Congress, from which he resigned in protest over the Mexican War, and then several terms in the Illinois legislature. His resume was pretty much the same as Obama's. Harry Truman served one term in the Senate after being a county commissioner.
Then Truman had to complete the termination of the Second World War. He had one hell of a decision to make when he dropped the bomb, but he did it to save American lives, it turned out he likely saved a bunch of Japanese lives as well. Again, the point is that he was able to prove something BEFORE he was elected POTUS wasn’t he….
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LBJ, one of our worst presidents, had a long resume of public service. But what is odd in Bruce R's argument is that conservatives bitch and moan about Washington insiders, yet now wish to have it both ways. Typical circular logic of the right.
(1) Where did I bitch about Washington insiders in this thread?
(2) LBJ had his head up his ass from the get-go, but what do you expect, he was a democrat……..
By the way, did you clear that comment with mcbear, he thinks LBJ was a Saint.
(3) I never asked for anything except a few answers, and all I have received in return has been obfuscation, and acrimony. Your post is a case in point isn’t it.
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He demonstrated enough judgment to exclude himself from all of the other accomplices on Capital Hill to the wanton act of profiteering and mass murder that continues to be committed in Iraq. That alone, places him head and shoulders above the other two candidates.
He wasn't in office [Senator] at that time to vote.
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He demonstrated enough judgment to exclude himself from all of the other accomplices on Capital Hill to the wanton act of profiteering and mass murder that continues to be committed in Iraq. That alone, places him head and shoulders above the other two candidates.
It does nothing of a sort, it just backs up YOUR feelings of that event, nothing more.
Damn near the entire Congress was behind that vote, without that apparently minor point we would not be there would we......
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Non-sequitur alert. Read what I wrote again -- more carefully this time. I suggested that their performance as POTUS could not be predicted by their prior experience.
I read exactly what you wrote, and I stand behind what I stated, your suggestion not withstanding.
What a man has done in the past is an excellent predictor of what he will do in the future. A man that has been a thief for the past 20 years is not very likely to be anything other than a thief for the next 20 years unless he is put in jail.
I believe he spoke out against the war authorization prior to the vote, at a time when the compliant media had fully bought into the hyped fear factor and it wasn't universally popular to be seen standing up to the president. That should account for something, as folks decide the merits of a candidate's gravitas.
It does nothing of a sort, it just backs up YOUR feelings of that event, nothing more. Damn near the entire Congress was behind that vote, without that apparently minor point we would not be there would we......
Yeah, that's what I just said.
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I read exactly what you wrote, and I stand behind what I stated, your suggestion not withstanding.
What a man has done in the past is an excellent predictor of what he will do in the future. A man that has been a thief for the past 20 years is not very likely to be anything other than a thief for the next 20 years unless he is put in jail.
Whatever you say Bruce. Every president who had held public office prior to holding the presidency, was a world-class top-notch president that you would support. Just like Jimmy Carter.
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