What has he done in Illinois that makes him such a great candidate for POTUS?
Very little, and some folks actually find that attractive. In the case of Obama, the appeal is in his general skill set, which is very impressive on the surface. In all honesty, I'm not sure how you can apply a man's background in regard to prognosticating his effectiveness as POTUS. I can look toward Reagan, Bush I, and Clinton as examples of presidents who wound up surprising me.
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Very little, and some folks actually find that attractive. In the case of Obama, the appeal is in his general skill set, which is very impressive on the surface at least. In all honesty, I'm not sure how you can apply a man's background in regard to prognosticating his effectiveness as POTUS. I can look toward Reagan, Bush I, and Clinton as examples of presidents who wound up surprising me.
Reagan ran the Screen Actors Guild for 6 years, he was Governor of California for two terms, he had a record of some distinction before he went for national office.
Bush I was a two term Congressman, an Ambassador, Director of the CIA, and Vice President, he also had a record before he went for POTUS.
Clinton was a two term (separated terms) Governor of Arkansas, his record both good and not so good was there for all to see.
Barack has shown very little, other than being a good speaker, and having "friends" of questionable racial bias.
I'm interested in what you think his "skill set" might be..........
Reagan ran the Screen Actors Guild for 6 years, he was Governor of California for two terms, he had a record of some distinction before he went for national office.
Bush I was a two term Congressman, an Ambassador, Director of the CIA, and Vice President, he also had a record before he went for POTUS.
Clinton was a two term (separated terms) Governor of Arkansas, his record both good and not so good was there for all to see.
Barack has shown very little, other than being a good speaker, and having "friends" of questionable racial bias.
I'm interested in what you think his "skill set" might be..........
His skill set is obvious to anyone who has listened to the man communicate. I'm not sure why you are laying out the well-known resumes of former presidents. I said they surprised me, I didn't say how or why.
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His skill set is obvious to anyone who has listened to the man communicate. I'm not sure why you are laying out the well-known resumes of former presidents. I said they surprised me, I didn't say how or why.
You are either missing the point, or trying to circumvent it.
The fact that he can communicate doesn’t mean that he has the ability to govern anybody or anything. We know he can talk, so could Hitler and Castro, but we still don’t know what he can do, or how he has done it in the past.
The former Presidents had something to go on, they had a record on how they handled things in the past. Where is Obama’s?
That record did little to indicate their effectiveness as CIC. The job requires above all else, the ability to communicate well and persuasively, and the ability to employ and apply sound judgment. Obama has demonstrated both to the satisfaction of many. Since he is a democrat, I'm quite certain that doesn't include you.
Be honest BillHawk, you don't have any friends. That was just a line of bullshit to puff yourself up on an internet forum. Jim
His name is Leo Barbee Jr. and we've been friends for at least 30 years. Here he is meeting w/ President Bush a few years ago.
President Bush greets the Rev. Leo Barbee Jr. of Lawrence at Forbes Field. Barbee and his wife, Juanita Anne, spoke with Bush on Monday and rode in the presidential motorcade to Bush's speech at the historic Brown site.
I think the primary consideration is what the candidate's vision for this country is. Obama puts forth the only new ideas, as far as I can see. He represents a break from the past that is badly needed in this country.
BTW, Abraham Lincoln served only one term in Congress,from which he resigned in protest over the Mexican War, and then several terms in the Illinois legislature. His resume was pretty much the same as Obama's. Harry Truman served one term in the Senate after being a county commissioner. LBJ, one of our worst presidents, had a long resume of public service. But what is odd in Bruce R's argument is that conservatives bitch and moan about Washington insiders, yet now wish to have it both ways. Typical circular logic of the right.
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Made clear in this thread is that among Barack Obama's many virtues is the fact that his very existence, along with the moral integrity he demonstrates, pisses off all the right people
Suggesting Obambi has "moral integrity" ignores his lies about not really knowing his minister, mentor and best friend. You guys just can't accept the fact that there is a Religious Left in this country and that Obambi subscribes to their racist hate speech agenda. Get over it! It is a fact!!
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That record did little to indicate their effectiveness as CIC. The job requires above all else, the ability to communicate well and persuasively, and the ability to employ and apply sound judgment. Obama has demonstrated both to the satisfaction of many. Since he is a democrat, I'm quite certain that doesn't include you.
That record did little to indicate their effectiveness as CIC.
I would beg to differ with you. If they were not effective they would not have been able to get to those positions would they? Apparently someone thought they were very effective didn't they?
The ability to employ and apply sound judgment.
OK, I'll bite just where and HOW has he employed this sound judgment that you seem to think he has?
Maybe you can show some bills that he has fostered, or been a part of?
Maybe you can show something that he has done in Illinois that has shown his ability to lead, or his sound judgment.....
The fact that I might be Republican doesn't have much bearing on this, as I am NOT enamored of McCain either.
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