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'Magic is over' for U.S., says French foreign minister

PARIS: Bernard Kouchner, the foreign minister of France and a longtime humanitarian, diplomatic and political activist on the international scene, says that whoever succeeds President George W. Bush may restore something of the United States' battered image and standing overseas, but that "the magic is over."

In a wide-ranging conversation with Roger Cohen of the International Herald Tribune at the launch of a Forum for New Diplomacy in Paris, Kouchner on Tuesday also held out the hope of talking with Hamas, the Palestinian faction that rules the Gaza Strip but has been ostracized by the West and by its Palestinian rival, Fatah, because it opposes peace talks with Israel and denies that Israel has a right to exist.

Asked whether the United States could repair the damage it has suffered to its reputation during the Bush presidency and especially since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, Kouchner replied, "It will never be as it was before."

"I think the magic is over," he continued, in what amounted to a sober assessment from one of the strongest supporters in France of the United States.

U.S. military supremacy endures, Kouchner noted, and the new president "will decide what to do - there are many means to re-establish the image." But even that, he predicted, "will take time."

Kouchner began the 90-minute event with a speech that emphasized that "there is not just a new diplomacy; there is a new world."

To those intimidated by or fearful of what seem to be the rising challenges of globalization, climate change, spreading disease or new technology, Kouchner had a simple message: "The great difficulty is to accept this new world."

"There are not more problems - please, have a little memory - than 35 years ago," he said, recalling how, in 1971, he co-founded Médecins Sans Frontières in response to the horrors of the conflict in Nigeria over Biafra.

The challenges may be daunting, he said, noting for instance that the world had decided to act to curb the AIDS epidemic, but asking, "Can we take charge of all the other diseases? I'm not sure."

Some of the most persistent diplomatic challenges emanate from the Middle East, and Kouchner was asked about approaches to Iran, whose president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has called for the destruction of Israel, or to Hamas, which has the same stated goal.

Kouchner and other European diplomats have tried to talk Iran out of its controversial nuclear program, but officially rejected all contacts with Hamas, which is listed as a terrorist group by the United States and the European Union. Asked whether there is a way to engage Hamas, which is supported by a significant minority of Palestinians, Kouchner appeared to hold out hope of contact, saying: "I'm looking for a diplomatic way to say yes."

He then carefully couched this statement by noting that, in general, "we have to talk with our enemies," and that Fatah, which controls the West Bank, "always said they were in favor" of unity talks with Hamas. But after Hamas routed Fatah forces from Gaza in June, the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah, has refused to deal with Hamas, which he accused of committing a coup. Kouchner, of the Socialist left in France, stirred controversy when he accepted the offer from President Nicolas Sarkozy, leader of the Gaullist center-right, to join his government last May.

At the end of the conversation, held in a glittering hall at the Académie Diplomatique Internationale, the IHT's partner in the new diplomatic forum, Kouchner denied that his activism had been curbed by the need to run the resplendent Foreign Ministry on the Quai d'Orsay and France's large diplomatic machinery around the world.

But he conceded that practicing the new diplomacy - which he defined as being action that is more practical, multifaceted and realistic than mere protocol calls and visits - "is very difficult, and very time-consuming."

'Magic is over' for U.S., says French foreign minister - International Herald Tribune


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Going by your hundreds and hundreds of posts slagging off America, I get the impression America must have treated you pretty badly Jack-off for you to hold such a grunge after not living there for twenty years!.
So do tell us did Uncle Sam arse rape you or couldn't the Americans cope with your towering intellect and living in exile in a shitty third world country is the penance for your genius.
Also maybe you can enlighten use to the protest below 'did America suppy the explosives for the Bali bombers???, just what are these indo hoes bitching about?

BTW, if you were a man of the world, you would know no-one gives a fuck what the French think !.
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There is no way that I have posted hundreds and hundreds of posts running down America, I do not write them Vonny only post them and what they say. I take alll of these posts with a grain of salt as I, unlike you, do know there are 2 sides to every story.


As for those young ladies above they were paid money to protest and have no idea what the signs evens ay as they are in English. The protest was paid for by a couple of high ranking wealthy Indonesians that want to put pressure on the companies from the States to get a bigger piece of the pie of their pie. The Indonesians right now are wanting these large companies to come in, develop mines wells and infrastructure and then use the excuse that you are now makiing profit off of our land and now that you have developed it we want our land back and your infrastructure that you have installed and spent hundreds of millions on and if you decide to take us to court our corrupt legal system will find in our favor...............But then if it was true what you have said in the past about you being in Indonesia before and being so knowledgable about Indonesia then you already knew this didn't you..............
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There is no way that I have posted hundreds and hundreds of posts running down America, I do not write them Vonny only post them and what they say. I take alll of these posts with a grain of salt as I, unlike you, do know there are 2 sides to every story.


As for those young ladies above they were paid money to protest and have no idea what the signs evens ay as they are in English. The protest was paid for by a couple of high ranking wealthy Indonesians that want to put pressure on the companies from the States to get a bigger piece of the pie of their pie. The Indonesians right now are wanting these large companies to come in, develop mines wells and infrastructure and then use the excuse that you are now makiing profit off of our land and now that you have developed it we want our land back and your infrastructure that you have installed and spent hundreds of millions on and if you decide to take us to court our corrupt legal system will find in our favor...............But then if it was true what you have said in the past about you being in Indonesia before and being so knowledgable about Indonesia then you already knew this didn't you..............
Sorry JakOff, but running down America seems to be your passion--next to your relentless spamming of BWOT. No one's impressed by either... Get a life!

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Sorry JakOff, but running down America seems to be your passion--next to your relentless spamming of BWOT. No one's impressed by either... Get a life!

You are a true hypocrit, you post articles from Drudge and they are news worthy and I do it and it is spam..........Oh Jay you are halarious.........
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