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Golly, too bad these unfortunate people bought the his and hers 4-wheelers, the motor camper, the bassboat, the dirtbikes, the F250 4x4, took annual vacations to Disneyworld, bought lottery tickets, and didn't save or teach their kids how to budget.

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but, but W told everybody to spend and spend and that would teach the terrorists that they couldn't beat 'merka and that it would make the economy strong. I'm sensing conflicting messages here.

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Humorous? What part of my post #8 in this thread did you not comprehend?
What part of State vs National do you not comprehend? You can't have a hodgepodge system and expect a viable solution. Which brings me back to "And the humorous part is, those that object the most haven't even looked at the plans to realize that most of what is being suggested doesn't add long term costs to any taxpayer."

So again my point is you have not read the proposed plans yet continue to use snippets from the MSM to draw ill-informed opinion. THAT is what I draw from your post #8.

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And I thought Lottery tickets were the ideal retirement system?
And I found out today that they are tax deductible. What's with that?

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You can deduct the cost of tickets from the winnings you report.

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What part of State vs National do you not comprehend? You can't have a hodgepodge system and expect a viable solution. Which brings me back to "And the humorous part is, those that object the most haven't even looked at the plans to realize that most of what is being suggested doesn't add long term costs to any taxpayer."

So again my point is you have not read the proposed plans yet continue to use snippets from the MSM to draw ill-informed opinion. THAT is what I draw from your post #8.
Empty logic, my friend. All the national program would do is 1) enlarge the risk pool, and 2) allow deficit funding to pay for health care--while you hate having the Chinese loan to us. To make this form of health insurance work, we must cut health care cost and that cannot be done through government regulation which would simply result in fewer procedures or delayed access.

I posted earlier that the Gimmiecrat California legislature dropped the state-based health insurance initiative because it would generate a 4 billion dollar deficit. Multiply that cost (give or take) times 50 states. The Massachusetts program is a mandated insurance system (or we will charge you to cover you) which is similar to what OBOCLINT proposes and as my post revealed is already losing money hand over fist.

Either OBOCLINT will find, upon assuming office, that there is very little money in the budget to implement their plans without a tax incrrease which the public has very little stomach for at this time.

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but, but W told everybody to spend and spend and that would teach the terrorists that they couldn't beat 'merka and that it would make the economy strong. I'm sensing conflicting messages here.
And of course, good little nazis that they are, everybody does what they're told.

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What part of State vs National do you not comprehend? You can't have a hodgepodge system and expect a viable solution....
Why not?

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