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The vast right wing conspiracy will have to finish with their bashing of McCain first.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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So, by all means, run a left-wing nooby so voters can't tell how bad he really is. The logic escapes me...
As with any presidential candidate the goal is leadership and ideals. It is with the team they build and the philosophies they project and attempt to execute.

As for the logic thing, We've been trying to help you for several years. Apparently it has a very large escape hatch without latch or lock.

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Wait until the VRWC drops the husk formerly known as Hillary and begins going after Obama. and the VLWC responds in-kind. We will look back on the McCain imbroglio with wistful nostalgia as lying together in elysian fields, drinking wine and eating ambrosia.

It a-gonna get fugly.

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Amen to it getting Fugly.

One thing that came up in conversation yesterday. I brought up two disparate radio clips. One, an example of Rush's Jesse Jackson parody and the other the one of Imus's "nappy headed ho" clip. The question was "At what point can Rush's comments on Obama that are in "afro-parody" be protected speech and when do they move to the level that got Imus in trouble, effectively shutting him down for 9 months?"

Now Rush strongly argues that he is NOT a PAC but the only way he can defend any offensive parody speech is if he moves to that category. At that point, ALL of his broadcast becomes under the purview of the FEC.

This is going to be interesting on so many levels.

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Wait until the VRWC drops the husk formerly known as Hillary and begins going after Obama. and the VLWC responds in-kind. We will look back on the McCain imbroglio with wistful nostalgia as lying together in elysian fields, drinking wine and eating ambrosia.

It a-gonna get fugly.

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The RNC, McCain, Swiftboaters Anonymous, Rush, Hannity, Coulter and the rest of the reich wing of the Republican party will then train their guns on Obama after they are finished with Hillary.

But they may well have doomed themselves to irrelevance by then.

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Amen to it getting Fugly.

One thing that came up in conversation yesterday. I brought up two disparate radio clips. One, an example of Rush's Jesse Jackson parody and the other the one of Imus's "nappy headed ho" clip. The question was "At what point can Rush's comments on Obama that are in "afro-parody" be protected speech and when do they move to the level that got Imus in trouble, effectively shutting him down for 9 months?"

Now Rush strongly argues that he is NOT a PAC but the only way he can defend any offensive parody speech is if he moves to that category. At that point, ALL of his broadcast becomes under the purview of the FEC.

This is going to be interesting on so many levels.
You have to stop listening to Rush every day! I listen to him occasionally but have no idea what you are talking about...

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You have to stop listening to Rush every day! I listen to him occasionally but have no idea what you are talking about...
McBare may hear Rush, but he doesn't listen because that woud challenge some of his core beliefs for which he doesn't have any defense.

I think the parody McBare's referring to is "The Magic Negro"--a phrase from the writing of a leftist columnist at the LA Times, who questioned if Obama was black enough.

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You have to stop listening to Rush every day! I listen to him occasionally but have no idea what you are talking about...
You are such a target-rich opportunity; I will let someone else take this one.

sigh.

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Amen to it getting Fugly.

One thing that came up in conversation yesterday. I brought up two disparate radio clips. One, an example of Rush's Jesse Jackson parody and the other the one of Imus's "nappy headed ho" clip. The question was "At what point can Rush's comments on Obama that are in "afro-parody" be protected speech and when do they move to the level that got Imus in trouble, effectively shutting him down for 9 months?"

Now Rush strongly argues that he is NOT a PAC but the only way he can defend any offensive parody speech is if he moves to that category. At that point, ALL of his broadcast becomes under the purview of the FEC.

This is going to be interesting on so many levels.
Are you suggesting that he be hushed because 'he can't say that on radio'? I don't think the founding fathers intended for free speech to be muzzled by the government or any other government entity. Explain how this would/could fall under the jurisdiction of the Federal Election Commission? Rush is not endorsing any particular candidate, but, even if he did, what's the problem with that? He's simply pursuing his political beliefs on his own dime. If radio stations don't like what he's saying, they can toss his show and carry something else.

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