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Progress in Iraq reshapes debate over war...

Democraps in Congress are losing ground in efforts to force withdrawal of U.S. troops: This was the Cover Story in today's USA Today. It is an interesting story from a liberal drive-by media source...


Soldiers from the 3rd Infantry Division scan an area
for roadside bombs near Baghdad last month.

When President Bush proposed increasing U.S. troop levels to quell rising violence in Iraq more than a year ago, several Republicans in Congress were skeptical. Democrats almost uniformly predicted failure...

It will be interesting to see how this plays in the '08 general election campaign.

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I read the article and came across this, "Rep. Wayne Gilchrist of Maryland, a Republican who voted to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq, was defeated in last week's primary by a supporter of the current policy."

Too bad, I have been involved in briefing Gilchrist on environmental issues as they apply to transportation and was very impressed by him and his staff.

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I read the article and came across this, "Rep. Wayne Gilchrist of Maryland, a Republican who voted to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq, was defeated in last week's primary by a supporter of the current policy."

Too bad, I have been involved in briefing Gilchrist on environmental issues as they apply to transportation and was very impressed by him and his staff.

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I am hopeful that a lot of Congressmen--even the impressive ones--will lose their jobs over this issue. I believe that a lot of our US military lost their limbs and lives because of those "traitors" because al-Qaeda took their comments as support for the terrorist's cause. Many in our own government have been guilty of perpetuating the war, especially in Iraq, by their mostly political comments. This has been a case where politics can and did kill US citizens. And I believe that almost all of those comments have been politically motivated, regardless of which political party they belonged to... IMO

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I read the article and came across this, "Rep. Wayne Gilchrist of Maryland, a Republican who voted to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq, was defeated in last week's primary by a supporter of the current policy."

Too bad, I have been involved in briefing Gilchrist on environmental issues as they apply to transportation and was very impressed by him and his staff.

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Blame it on smear within the Republicans during this Maryland election. Each one was trying to outdo the other on how conservative they were; it was almost comical but it was sad too
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Why I do briefings or support for briefings, I stick strictly to the subject at hand. I prefer not to think of politics at all under those circumstances. Even so, there is an awful lot you can learn about people by how they ask questions, what they ask, and how they pursue a line of questioning. He is a marathoner. Most of them use walkers.

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I am hopeful that a lot of Congressmen--even the impressive ones--will lose their jobs over this issue. I believe that a lot of our US military lost their limbs and lives because of those "traitors" because al-Qaeda took their comments as support for the terrorist's cause. Many in our own government have been guilty of perpetuating the war, especially in Iraq, by their mostly political comments. This has been a case where politics can and did kill US citizens. And I believe that almost all of those comments have been politically motivated, regardless of which political party they belonged to... IMO

The blame needs to be put squarely where it belongs - on all the Reichwing nutjobs who got us into the war in Iraq, and the sheep like YOU who support it, and all your fear mongering and screams of "traitor".

Disgusting.

People like you would still have us fighting in Vietnam today.

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The blame needs to be put squarely where it belongs - on all the Reichwing nutjobs who got us into the war in Iraq, and the sheep like YOU who support it, and all your fear mongering and screams of "traitor".

Disgusting.

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C'mon, you're really FTL, aren't you?

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The blame needs to be put squarely where it belongs - on all the Reichwing nutjobs who got us into the war in Iraq, and the sheep like YOU who support it, and all your fear mongering and screams of "traitor".

Disgusting.

People like you would still have us fighting in Vietnam today.
"People like me" would never have let us get into Vietnam...

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Dozens of cities spared war dead

These data surprised me:

NO IRAQ FATALITIES

Cities with a population of more than 100,000 that have not lost a U.S. servicemember in Iraq, according to what the Pentagon calls the "hometown of record" usually where the person was living at the time of enlistment, but not necessarily where he or she was born, grew up or has immediate family:

City2006 pop. estimate

Oakland397,067
North Las Vegas197,567
Gilbert, Ariz.191,517
Fort Lauderdale185,804
Worcester, Mass.175,454
Huntsville, Ala.168,132
Rockford, Ill.155,138
Joliet, Ill.142,702
Syracuse, N.Y.140,658
Lakewood, Colo.140,024
Mesquite, Texas131,447
Coral Springs, Fla.129,805
Stamford, Conn.119,261
Inglewood, Calif.114,914
Olathe, Kan.114,662
Visalia, Calif.113,487
Cary, N.C.112,414
Beaumont, Texas109,856
Costa Mesa, Calif.109,809
Downey, Calif.109,376
Santa Clara, Calif.108,518
Miramar, Fla.108,072
Westminster, Colo.105,753
South Bend, Ind.104,905
Fairfield, Calif.104,897
Burbank, Calif.104,317
Ventura, Calif.104,092
Richmond, Calif.102,120
Midland, Texas102,073
Elgin, Ill.101,903
Berkeley, Calif.101,555
Portsmouth, Va.101,377
Cambridge, Mass.101,365
Daly City, Calif.101,005
Billings, Mont.100,148

Note: List excludes communities measured by the Census Bureau that aren't traditional incorporated cities, such as East Los Angeles and large towns on Long Island

Sources: Analysis of Defense Department data by Paul Overberg, USA TODAY; Census Bureau


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