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Old 02-08-2008, 06:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Comparing the *&&&%^*@#*&&$#(@)!)#))@)@)!)#)#($( bitch and Barack Obama.......

On Legislative Experience:
Senator Clinton, who has served only one full term (6yrs.), and another year campaigning, has managed to author and pass into law, (20) twenty pieces of legislation in her first six years.
These bills can be found on the website of the Library of Congress (www.thomas.loc.gov), but to save you trouble, I'll post them here for you.
1. Establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site.
2. Support the goals and ideals of Better Hearing and Speech Month.
3. Recognize the Ellis Island Medal of Honor.
4. Name courthouse after Thurgood Marshall.
5. Name courthouse after James L. Watson.
6. Name post office after Jonn A. O'Shea.
7. Designate Aug. 7, 2003, as National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
8. Support the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day.
9. Honor the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death.
10. Congratulate the Syracuse Univ. Orange Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
11. Congratulate the Le Moyne College Dolphins Men's Lacrosse Team on winning the championship.
12. Establish the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program.
13. Name post office after Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda.
14. Honor Shirley Chisholm for her service to the nation and express condolences on her death.
15. Honor John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, firefighters who lost their lives on duty. Only five of Clinton's bills are, more substantive. 16. Extend period of unemployment assistance to victims of 9/11.
17. Pay for city projects in response to 9/11
18. Assist landmine victims in other countries.
19. Assist family caregivers in accessing affordable respite care.
20. Designate part of the National Forest System in Puerto Rico as protected in the wilderness preservation system.
There you have it, the facts straight from the Senate Record.

Now, I would post those of Obama's, but the list is too substantive, so I'll mainly categorize.

During the first (8) eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:
**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 (became law),
**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, (became law),
**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate,
**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, (became law),
**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, (In committee), and many more.
In all since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.

Guys, is there really a choice here....................
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Obama Suggests Clinton Show Tax Returns

Obama Suggests Clinton Show Tax Returns
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NEW ORLEANS (AP) — Democrat Barack Obama suggested Thursday that Hillary Rodham Clinton follow his lead and release her and her husband's income tax returns so the public can see where the $5 million she loaned her presidential campaign came from.

A day earlier, Clinton acknowledged that she had made the loan late last month. At the time, Obama was raising and spending more money than her heading into the round of presidential primaries and caucuses on Super Tuesday.

Asked whether he would call on the Clintons to release their tax returns, Obama stopped short of saying they should.

"I'll just say that I've released my tax returns. That's been a policy I've maintained consistently. I think the American people deserve to know where you get your income from. But I'll leave it up to you guys to chase it down," he told reporters on the flight to Omaha, Neb., for a rally.

"I've disclosed my income tax returns," he said. "I think we set the bar in terms of transparency and disclosure that has been a consistent theme of my campaign and my career in politics."

There was no immediate comment from Clinton's campaign.

Obama noted that Clinton is wealthier than he is. Asked whether he would rule out tapping his personal funds to pay for his presidential campaign, he said, "I don't have enough money to drop $5 million into a campaign."

Clinton's financial disclosures, which reveal only broad ranges of assets, place her and former President Clinton's wealth between $10 million to $50 million.

Obama released tax documents last year showing income of more than $991,000 for him and his wife, Michelle. The figure included his Senate salary as well as her income as an administrator of the University of Chicago Hospitals.

The Associated Press: Obama Suggests Clinton Show Tax Returns
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What an idiotic and pathetic thread. I often wonder how the supporters of this empty suit get so venomous when it comes to Clinton? What makes them so afraid if they have such fantastic candidate?

I guess it is out of that fear for example, you weren't exactly clear to clarify that this voting record . . .
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233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.
. . . is from the Illinois legislature where Obama didn't vote YES or NO, but PRESENT, 129 times, thus avoiding to take an stance in issues and even bills that he sponsored or cosponsored. Among those, bills on gun controls, reproductive rights and human rights and anti-discrimination laws.

Your mischaracterization of Hillary Clinton's legislative record is worthy of Rush Limbaugh, Bravo!

Now, Obama demonizing the fact that the Clintons are rich people able to contribute to the senators campaign (actually it was a loan and it has been repaid already), not Romney rich but very wealthy nonetheless, only shows his disconnect with reality and his desperate eagerness to win denomination by destroying Hillary at all costs, even at the expense of the democratic party unity, as he and his wife haven't been shy to suggest. He should keep in mind that he wont succeed in what the republicans didn't achieve in 8 years.

Instead, Obama should go out and set the record straight on his real estate deals with Tony Rezko and the rumors that Hugo Chavez is channeling funds to his campaign. The question is, though: Can he?

Thank God there is a real choice!

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Old 02-08-2008, 12:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What an idiotic and pathetic thread. I often wonder how the supporters of this empty suit get so venomous when it comes to Clinton? What makes them so afraid if they have such fantastic candidate?

I guess it is out of that fear for example, you weren't exactly clear to clarify that this voting record . . .

. . . is from the Illinois legislature where Obama didn't vote YES or NO, but PRESENT, 129 times, thus avoiding to take an stance in issues and even bills that he sponsored or cosponsored. Among those, bills on gun controls, reproductive rights and human rights and anti-discrimination laws.

Your mischaracterization of Hillary Clinton's legislative record is worthy of Rush Limbaugh, Bravo!

Now, Obama demonizing the fact that the Clintons are rich people able to contribute to the senators campaign (actually it was a loan and it has been repaid already), not Romney rich but very wealthy nonetheless, only shows his disconnect with reality and his desperate eagerness to win denomination by destroying Hillary at all costs, even at the expense of the democratic party unity, as he and his wife haven't been shy to suggest. He should keep in mind that he wont succeed in what the republicans didn't achieve in 8 years.

Instead, Obama should go out and set the record straight on his real estate deals with Tony Rezko and the rumors that Hugo Chavez is channeling funds to his campaign. The question is, though: Can he?

Thank God there is a real choice!
Both sides of the O/H campaign need to strive for clarity and transparency. But please, if you post and accuse someone of being "worthy of Rush"... just maybe you should tighten up the Chavez comment with some facts.
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Both sides of the O/H campaign need to strive for clarity and transparency. But please, if you post and accuse someone of being "worthy of Rush"... just maybe you should tighten up the Chavez comment with some facts.
Why should I? I used the word RUMOR. Had I said that those rumors are true I understand that you would be asking for substantiation.

The article that Jakarta posted in which Obama says that HC should show her tax returns implies that there is something fishy in her income without any support whatsoever either. It is not me who lowered the level of the discussion.

BTW, google Tony Rezko and see what the papers in Chicago have to say about the subject.

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Why should I? I used the word RUMOR. Had I said that those rumors are true I understand that you would be asking for substantiation.

The article that Jakarta posted in which Obama says that HC should show her tax returns implies that there is something fishy in her income without any support whatsoever either. It is not me who lowered the level of the discussion.

BTW, google Tony Rezko and see what the papers in Chicago have to say about the subject.
That story has been going on for 2-3 years. I would assume if there was meat in it there would have already been headlines and more.

Is there anything new there?

As for the tax return issue, that is standard politics. EVERY election has one side releasing their's first and then publicly asking the other to do the same, insinuating that since they had also not released their's on the secret date, there must be a nefarious reason. That has been going on since the media started covering every fart the candidates issued.
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I can only imagine that the Repos are enjoying the Democrat Party meltdown about as much as the Democrats are enjoying the Repos self-immolation.

I offer matches and gasoline for everybody! More cowbell!

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What an idiotic and pathetic thread. I often wonder how the supporters of this empty suit get so venomous when it comes to Clinton? What makes them so afraid if they have such fantastic candidate?

I guess it is out of that fear for example, you weren't exactly clear to clarify that this voting record . . .

. . . is from the Illinois legislature where Obama didn't vote YES or NO, but PRESENT, 129 times, thus avoiding to take an stance in issues and even bills that he sponsored or cosponsored. Among those, bills on gun controls, reproductive rights and human rights and anti-discrimination laws.

Your mischaracterization of Hillary Clinton's legislative record is worthy of Rush Limbaugh, Bravo!

Now, Obama demonizing the fact that the Clintons are rich people able to contribute to the senators campaign (actually it was a loan and it has been repaid already), not Romney rich but very wealthy nonetheless, only shows his disconnect with reality and his desperate eagerness to win denomination by destroying Hillary at all costs, even at the expense of the democratic party unity, as he and his wife haven't been shy to suggest. He should keep in mind that he wont succeed in what the republicans didn't achieve in 8 years.

Instead, Obama should go out and set the record straight on his real estate deals with Tony Rezko and the rumors that Hugo Chavez is channeling funds to his campaign. The question is, though: Can he?

Thank God there is a real choice!
Well instead of discussing Hillary's official senate record, we could talk about her record only as the first cunt............White Water, Travelgate, the list goes one and she accomplished this while being the wife of the president, just think what she could do as the Bitch President. And when things get a little tight and raw while talking to a radical country that has our balls in their hand she can just puff up and shed a tear and I am sure our enemies will back off and walk away.............
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Well instead of discussing Hillary's official senate record, we could talk about her record only as the first cunt............White Water, Travelgate, the list goes one and she accomplished this while being the wife of the president, just think what she could do as the Bitch President. And when things get a little tight and raw while talking to a radical country that has our balls in their hand she can just puff up and shed a tear and I am sure our enemies will back off and walk away.............
First cunt? Are you her son?

Two words for you . . . Tony Rezko

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Her support for the Iraq abomination is more than enough for me
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