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Ah the bravery and brazenness of my mycophagous chums, now are sure your not a pagan
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If there is a historical christian counterpart to the koran (and there really isn't), it is the Vatican, not the bible.
The Vatican is not the source of Christianity. It is a group of individuals. The Bible is. Koran is the source of the Muslim religion....in which has not changed its tone on the treatment of women and the laws of Islam that revel in the aggressive actions against non-Muslims. Jihad. (for some, not all) The Bible dropped it's barbarism by the ways of the New Testament. But yes, I see your point.
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The Vatican is not the source of Christianity. It is a group of individuals. The Bible is. Koran is the source of the Muslim religion....in which has not changed its tone on the treatment of women and the laws of Islam that revel in the aggressive actions against non-Muslims. Jihad. (for some, not all) The Bible dropped it's barbarism by the ways of the New Testament. But yes, I see your point.
There are plenty of scholars who would show you that the koran has been chopped and rigged just as the bible has to suit the politely tone of the times , Salman Rushdie being but one.
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I let you guys in on it, islam blah blah blah I couldn't give a flying crap about the Abrahamic religions nor the peoples that make them up, but whacking raghead and bighead with a stick sure is fun. Pair of saggy arsed fools . LoL
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The Vatican is not the source of Christianity. It is a group of individuals. The Bible is. Koran is the source of the Muslim religion....in which has not changed its tone on the treatment of women and the laws of Islam that revel in the aggressive actions against non-Muslims. Jihad. (for some, not all) The Bible dropped it's barbarism by the ways of the New Testament. But yes, I see your point.
My understanding, false as it may be, is that the closest thing Christians have to the Qu'ran (or however you spell it) is Jesus Christ himself.
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^ Who did not write the NT. The greatest historic influence over christianity has been wielded by Rome, that by a wide margin.

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^ That wasn't my point. The point is that Christ is to Christianity as the Qu'ran is to Islam. It doesn't matter who wrote what; the point is that the text itself is the holiest, most revered, authoritative, infallible, perfect, supreme object of the Islamic faith.
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^ That wasn't my point. The point is that Christ is to Christianity as the Qu'ran is to Islam. It doesn't matter who wrote what; the point is that the text itself is the holiest, most revered, authoritative, infallible, perfect, supreme object of the Islamic faith.
I disagree. The word and intent of Christ is an unknown. Where does one go to find the word of Christ? You certainly won't find it in the bible. What you will find is speculation and folklore handed down for generations and shaped into a cohesive work by Fourth Century Roman conquerers of christianity.

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I'm not a Muslim either, which may explain my failure to convey the concept to you.

The preeminent figure in Christianity is Christ; The preeminent figure in Islam is the Qu'ran.

If that still doesn't make sense, it never will (at least not with me explaining it).

I promise I'll finish reading my book on the origin of religions.
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