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It would be easier to back Israel if they weren't a theocratic democracy -- if they were a secular democracy. Even so, the country is far more stable and democratic than any of it's neighbors.
True, but if it were not for their radicalism they wouldn't have this problem in the first place. They insist on being in that part of the world because of religious beliefs. That doesn't fly too high with me, although for many others that is the final answer.
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Ah yes, once upon a time a bus was bombed. Meanwhile, in the last year, according to the Israeli Human-Rights organization B'Tselem, 660 Palestinians were killed by the Israelis while 17 Israelis were killed by Palestinians. That's what the religious fanatics call "proportionality".

I refuse to join an 'atrocity photo' competition. We have all seen where that leads. However, the numbers speak for themselves.

What I do object to, however, as some other contributors have noted, is being forced to finance the slaughter.
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You tell me why did Israel pull its settlers from Gaza?
Did Israel give a reason? I don't know and frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

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Did Israel give a reason? I don't know and frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

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By the way the issue here is collective punishment... stay on topic
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That's one issue. However I meant to emphasize the U.S. media blackout, which is the one crime that facilitates all of the others.
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By the way the issue here is collective punishment... stay on topic
The issue is indiscriminate murder of innocent civilians. Stay on topic.

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That's one issue. However I meant to emphasize the U.S. media blackout, which is the one crime that facilitates all of the others.
That's part of the equation. The media has been convinced that Israel can do no wrong, should anyone doubt that then you get answers a la Botnst from left field to discredit any feeling of humanity towards these people. In essence they have been certified terrorists and no one will miss them as long as no one dares to react.
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The issue is indiscriminate murder of innocent civilians. Stay on topic.
Oh, so it's not a crime to collectively punish a whole group of people?
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That's part of the equation. The media has been convinced that Israel can do no wrong, should anyone doubt that then you get answers a la Botnst from left field to discredit any feeling of humanity towards these people. In essence they have been certified terrorists and no one will miss them as long as no one dares to react.
Fanatics like you believe there is only one side to the story.

Anybody who thinks that stepping onto a bus full of school children with a belt loaded with explosives and ball-bearings is NOT terrorism is a fool as well as a fanatic.

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