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Someone stepped in some major doo doo here.
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But you seem to forget that we were attacked by al-Qaeda, who is now our primary enemy in Iraq... But of course you are not anti-American, you just want us to believe that President Bush did it... Duhhhh!

You guys always love to blame Clinton for 9-11. Wouldn't that then include you in the "Blame America" first club?
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No wonder you couldn't make it as a "prof..." They are everywhere! It only took one click of the mouse to find dozens of facts. Here are a couple:

"OSAMA BIN LADEN and Saddam Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, al Qaeda training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for al Qaeda--perhaps even for Mohamed Atta--according to a top secret U.S. government memorandum obtained by THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

The memo, dated October 27, 2003, was sent from Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith to Senators Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller, the chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It was written in response to a request from the committee as part of its investigation into prewar intelligence claims made by the administration. Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources. Some of it is new information obtained in custodial interviews with high-level al Qaeda terrorists and Iraqi officials, and some of it is more than a decade old. The picture that emerges is one of a history of collaboration between two of America's most determined and dangerous enemies.

According to the memo--which lays out the intelligence in 50 numbered points--Iraq-al Qaeda contacts began in 1990 and continued through mid-March 2003, days before the Iraq War began. Most of the numbered passages contain straight, fact-based intelligence reporting, which in some cases includes an evaluation of the credibility of the source. This reporting is often followed by commentary and analysis.
The relationship began shortly before the first Gulf War. According to reporting in the memo, bin Laden sent "emissaries to Jordan in 1990 to meet with Iraqi government officials." At some unspecified point in 1991, according to a CIA analysis, "Iraq sought Sudan's assistance to establish links to al Qaeda." The outreach went in both directions. According to 1993 CIA reporting cited in the memo, "bin Laden wanted to expand his organization's capabilities through ties with Iraq." ......

PREVIEW: Case Closed

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WorldNetDaily: Osama-Saddam links 9-11 commission missed



Ansar Al-Islam: Iraq's Al-Qaeda Connection

The Washington Institute for Near East Policy | 1/17/2003

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Can you show us something more "recent", you know something like "findings" if what the report said was true?
By the way you made my point with this article about how PRIOR to the invasion every asshole out there was linking Iraq with Al -Qaeda. Where are these people now? Are they going to step up to the plate and PAY the bill we incurred by executing their fantasies? Or maybe Jayhawk is OK with our children paying for it instead
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You might want to send that to Congress and the White House as they seem to have missed those sentient bits of information. It was fully debunked by the 9/11 Commission report and even by the White House in their latest "oops we don't have proof of this" report that I linked above.

Isn't worldnetdaily sponsored by tinfoilhelmets.com?
When presented w/ facts that run counter to your personal and political biases, throwing insults out seems to be the new way around here... Maybe your motto should be "When in doubt throw insults out." Catchy, don't you think?

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When presented w/ facts that run counter to your personal and political biases, throwing insults out seems to be the new way around here... Maybe your motto should be "When in doubt throw insults out." Catchy, don't you think?
What facts dude? get off the mushrooms and step in reality!
That report you posted is exactly the kind of bullshit that was floating around to justify the Iraqi invasion. Like McBear pointed out, it was debunked dude, wake up!
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Can you show us something more "recent", you know something like "findings" if what the report said was true?
By the way you made my point with this article about how PRIOR to the invasion every asshole out there was linking Iraq with Al -Qaeda. Where are these people now? Are they going to step up to the plate and PAY the bill we incurred by executing their fantasies? Or maybe Jayhawk is OK with our children paying for it instead
"...more recent"? We're talking about al-Qaeda involvement in Iraq before 9/11/01 and the coalition invasion in 2003! Not since that time... I believe that there is absolutely no doubt that al-Qaeda has been involved in Iraq since that time.

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What facts dude? get off the mushrooms and step in reality!
That report you posted is exactly the kind of bullshit that was floating around to justify the Iraqi invasion. Like McBear pointed out, it was debunked dude, wake up!
As I said: "When in doubt throw insults out," dude!

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As I said: "When in doubt throw insults out," dude!
is asking you to wake up an insult?
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Ummm, there is no doubt. Hasn't been any for about four years. Where have you been?
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