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I'd prefer to hear a discussion from the candidates about this issue than whether or not they favor a heterosexual marriage amendment. Or who is more pro-gay or pro-black or pro-brown, or who will give more pretty colors and shiny objects to voters etc ad nauseum.
I am with you 100% on this. This next EIGHT years are going to come down to SECURITY and ECONOMY. Nothing else matters. If we have more Security issues then the Economy will suffer as well. If the Economy continues to tumble Security will be an afterthought.

The problem is with both of these issues that you cannot give a "sound-bite" answer for either of them. And since there are so many variables it is unrealistic to expect detailed playbooks for what a candidate "might" do "if" a certain scenario unfolds.

I would like to see the candidates provide their entire team that they would run with NOW. I want to see the CV of everybody. Their experience, their foibles, their skeletons, their ability to problem solve in the real world. Why do we as a population wait until we elect somebody and then they pull out the 23 guys that helped get them elected as the shiny new "best and brightest". That shit has to stop.

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^Honestly, right now, at this moment, I would vote for the politician who could tell me how to get the caliper rattle out of the left front of my daily beater.
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^Honestly, right now, at this moment, I would vote for the politician who could tell me how to get the caliper rattle out of the left front of my daily beater.

Well McBear may have a shot at that vote........
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Of all the Demo candidates, Hillary is the most consistent and careful, IMO. The rest are kind of flakey, except Richardson and Biden. If Biden would only talk half as much he'd be twice as good. Richardson has taken the Dick Cheney advanced charisma course and done very well in it.
Hillary scares the poop out of me, I pay enough for things now, I can't imagine what stuff will cost when she is in charge of "our" wallet.
Her credentials: "I watched Bill do it, and it looks easy enough"
Obama seems clueless and has even fewer credentials than Hillary. He seems more concerned about Chinese toys than what’s going on in Pakistan.
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The Repos -- gawd help us all. If we don't get a religious flake who get's to populate his own planet in there we get a Baptist talibanite.
Thompson was a good starter, he was way ahead when he kept his mouth shut....

Hey, it's still early, there is a chance that someone with a little more Moxie will show up, or maybe get these people to start thinking some ...



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Hillary scares the poop out of me, I pay enough for things now, I can't imagine what stuff will cost when she is in charge of "our" wallet.
Hillary scares the poop out of me too. But for what it's worth, she does not contribute to the rising living costs. Regardless who is going to be in the WH, it will be unavoidable to have tax hikes, thinking otherwise would make you a complete fool. We have the current Administrations to thank that for. Hope you are not going to dispute that fact.

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Hillary scares the poop out of me too. But for what it's worth, she does not contribute to the rising living costs.

How do you figure her multibillion dollar health care bug-a-boo isn't going to increase your tax load, and cost of living?

Regardless who is going to be in the WH, it will be unavoidable to have tax hikes, thinking otherwise would make you a complete fool.

That's where we differ. It has been proven time and time again that tax cuts help the economy and end up bringing in higher tax revenues. Look at what happened here in Maryland, there was a tax surplus until O’Malley got into office, suddenly there is a BILLION dollar + short fall, why is that?

We have the current Administrations to thank that for. Hope you are not going to dispute that fact.

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That's where we differ. It has been proven time and time again that tax cuts help the economy and end up bringing in higher tax revenues. Look at what happened here in Maryland, there was a tax surplus until O’Malley got into office, suddenly there is a BILLION dollar + short fall, why is that?
Then all taxes should be eliminated, since that would result in unlimited revenue.

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"How do you figure her multibillion dollar health care bug-a-boo isn't going to increase your tax load, and cost of living?"

That's why I said she scared the shit out of me too. Obviously you were too quick to disagree with me already.

"It has been proven time and time again that tax cuts help the economy and end up bringing in higher tax revenues."

Tax cuts only hurts economy. Anything else is just a myth, and you may want to prove that to us again:

Tax Cuts: Myths and Realities, Revised 3/20/07

Tax Returns: A Comprehensive Assessment of the Bush Administration’s Record on Cutting Taxes, Revised 4/23/04

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Then all taxes should be eliminated, since that would result in unlimited revenue.
Conveniently ignoring the curve and going extremis.

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