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McCain Rising


McCain closing gap with Romney
In N.H. poll, Obama inches ahead of Clinton
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Globe Staff / December 23, 2007


Senator John McCain of Arizona, whose bid for the Republican presidential nomination was all but dead this summer, has made a dramatic recovery in the Granite State 2 1/2 weeks before the 2008 vote, pulling within 3 percentage points of front-runner Mitt Romney, a new Boston Globe poll indicates.

Among Democratic voters, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois has opened up a narrow lead over Senator Hillary Clinton of New York, 30 percent to 28 percent. That, too, represents a major shift from last month's Globe poll, which had Clinton with a 14-point advantage. Former senator John Edwards of North Carolina remained a steady third at 14 percent.

The Globe poll also found wide disparities in voter opinion on domestic issues, with Republicans and Democrats expressing starkly different views on the government's role in healthcare and on whether illegal immigration is a problem.

The survey provided fresh evidence of how tight the primary contests have become in New Hampshire and around the country, adding to a growing sense among political analysts, voters, and the campaigns that neither party has a clear front-runner just days before the crush of primaries begins.

The survey of 422 likely Democratic voters and 410 likely Republican voters in New Hampshire, conducted from Dec. 16 to Dec. 20, has a margin of error for each party subsample of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.

The races in New Hampshire are still wide open - roughly 40 percent of likely voters in both parties indicated they are still undecided.

But McCain's momentum is striking given that he was essentially written off by the political class and by rivals after weak fund-raising and excessive early spending forced him to completely retool his campaign in July. Since then, his focus on New Hampshire, stumbles by his opponents, and a series of newspaper endorsements have helped him regain traction.

"Republicans talked about the John McCain deathwatch back in the summer," said Andrew E. Smith, director of the University of New Hampshire Survey Center, which conducted the Globe poll. "He's back to the John McCain of 2000."

McCain appears to have gained ground without a surge of support from independent voters, who propelled him to a double-digit win over George W. Bush in the 2000 primary and nearly catapulted him to the GOP nomination. McCain earned more support in the Globe poll from registered Republicans than from "undeclared" voters.

McCain, the darling of New Hampshire voters in the 2000 primary, has the support of 25 percent of likely Republican voters, compared with 28 percent for Romney. Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani has slid into third place, with 14 percent. A Globe poll of New Hampshire voters last month had Romney at 32 percent, Giuliani at 20 percent, and McCain at 17 percent.

Among Democratic voters, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois has opened up a narrow lead over Senator Hillary Clinton of New York, 30 percent to 28 percent. That, too, represents a major shift from last month's Globe poll, which had Clinton with a 14-point advantage. Former senator John Edwards of North Carolina remained a steady third at 14 percent.

The Globe poll also found wide disparities in voter opinion on domestic issues, with Republicans and Democrats expressing starkly different views on the government's role in healthcare and on whether illegal immigration is a problem.

The survey provided fresh evidence of how tight the primary contests have become in New Hampshire and around the country, adding to a growing sense among political analysts, voters, and the campaigns that neither party has a clear front-runner just days before the crush of primaries begins.

The survey of 422 likely Democratic voters and 410 likely Republican voters in New Hampshire, conducted from Dec. 16 to Dec. 20, has a margin of error for each party subsample of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.

The races in New Hampshire are still wide open - roughly 40 percent of likely voters in both parties indicated they are still undecided.

But McCain's momentum is striking given that he was essentially written off by the political class and by rivals after weak fund-raising and excessive early spending forced him to completely retool his campaign in July. Since then, his focus on New Hampshire, stumbles by his opponents, and a series of newspaper endorsements have helped him regain traction.

"Republicans talked about the John McCain deathwatch back in the summer," said Andrew E. Smith, director of the University of New Hampshire Survey Center, which conducted the Globe poll. "He's back to the John McCain of 2000."

McCain appears to have gained ground without a surge of support from independent voters, who propelled him to a double-digit win over George W. Bush in the 2000 primary and nearly catapulted him to the GOP nomination. McCain earned more support in the Globe poll from registered Republicans than from "undeclared" voters.Continued...

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I am now undecided myself. McCain is a possiblity now since the damn Dems implied strongly in congress that they will get a tax increased passed in the near future.
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Other than Paul, he seems to be the best of a bad lot on the GOP side. If it weren't for all the boot-licking of the same Bush administration that savagely slandered him during the 2000 primary, and his cheerleading for our mass-murder in Iraq, I might actually be a supporter on some level....

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along with his blood pressure, cholesterol and age...

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Did he get some tips from Dole?
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Didn't someone here previously have strong objections to McCain based on his tie to Keating? Could have been a different board. Not sure.

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McCain's got baggage with the Republican base that will ultimately hamper his candidacy. The McCain-Feingold bill was a bitter pill to swallow as was his sponsorship of the failed immigration amnesty bill. And his anti-torture posture doesn't cut it with white male voters, in my opinion. He seems to want to take some moral high ground about torture, but our enemies are immoral in this regard. Jihadists don't believe in torture; they cut off our heads quickly upon capture.

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McCain's got baggage with the Republican base that will ultimately hamper his candidacy. The McCain-Feingold bill was a bitter pill to swallow as was his sponsorship of the failed immigration amnesty bill. And his anti-torture posture doesn't cut it with white male voters, in my opinion. He seems to want to take some moral high ground about torture, but our enemies are immoral in this regard. Jihadists don't believe in torture; they cut off our heads quickly upon capture.
Considering he has actual EXPERIENCE with the subject, I can see where the "white male" voter might get confused. And make that Rightwing white male. Or more accurately many of the rightwing white males that talk a good game but failed to make it down to the ol recruiting office to put their ass where their mouth is.

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I am now undecided myself. McCain is a possiblity now since the damn Dems implied strongly in congress that they will get a tax increased passed in the near future.
With the conversion of the Boomers from highend taxpayers to benefits receivers over the next decade AND the Interest load for the National Debt, there is going to have to be a tax increase just to keep a status quo revenue stream.

So if that is the primary gate for you, it really doesn't matter who you vote for, everyone is going to be signing on for a tax increase [or reconfiguration, or ever how they rationalize it] by the time they are in office. And a recession [or simple stagflation] will just exacerbate it.

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you can only go up from 0%, of course he's rising. he still has no chance in hell and should just quit before he embarrasses himself anymore.
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