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OK, I took the survey. It would seem my views align most readily with Dr. Paul's, with Fred coming up second. That being said, the survey isn't measuring Dr. Paul's conservatism, rather how his views line up with others labelled conservative.
In regard to foreign policy, Dr. Paul's views highlight the divergence between Republican and conservative ideals. There is nothing conservative about global hegemony and imperialism, yet the GOP currently embraces and fiercely promotes such a position. In regard to social issues, his position highlights the distinction between true conservatism and social conservatism.

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^Amazingly I agree with GS here as Paul is the one who really acts like there will be no tax increase and there will be far less spending abroad. We are simply too socialistic for what the founding fathers anticipated. Also a balanced budget wouldn't hurt, this knife edge monetary walk we are doing is too risky.
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Where is Barry Goldwater when we need him? . . . oh yes, dead.
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I think public conclusions on the validity of Fox News' claims of objectivity are already well formed.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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I have little doubt that Fox News would do everything in their power to crucify the man, were he still politically active today.

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I think public conclusions on the validity of Fox News' claims of objectivity are already well formed.
And they are right there, just a couple of notches below skunk piss.
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"LATEST NEWS" item on FoxNews.com front page linked not to news story, but to Republican blog post
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Summary: The front page of FoxNews.com contained a headline under the "LATEST NEWS" tab that read "Report: Over 400 Scientists Dispute Man-Made Warming," the link to which led to a post on the blog of Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) -- not a news report.


On December 21, the front page of FoxNews.com contained a headline under the "LATEST NEWS" tab that read "Report: Over 400 Scientists Dispute Man-Made Warming." However, the purported "LATEST NEWS" item did not link to a news report but, rather, to a post on "The Inhofe EPW Press Blog," the blog of Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK), ranking minority member on the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works.

The headline on the post to which the FoxNews.com headline linked states: "U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007: Senate Report Debunks 'Consensus.' " But as the post itself makes clear, the report was not put out by the U.S. Senate or by the full Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, but by the "office of the GOP Ranking Member."

The headline also appeared in the "SCITECH" section of the FoxNews.com front page on December 21, and the link led to the same Inhofe post.





Media Matters for America noted that on the December 6, 2006, edition of Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume, correspondent Molly Henneberg uncritically aired Inhofe's false claim that "[i]t was warmer in the '30s than it is today" and Inhofe's baseless assertion that "it was warmer in the 15th century than it is today." Also, during an interview on the November 28, 2006, edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, Inhofe asserted that there is no "relationship between manmade gases and global warming," and co-host Steve Doocy echoed this argument, declaring that Inhofe had made a "great point" because "there's been no scientific connection" established between climate change and human activity. In 2003, Inhofe called global warming "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people."

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I have little doubt that Fox News would do everything in their power to crucify the man.
I disagree! Fox would love Barry Goldwater: I speak from my personal experience w/ Goldwater. I was 18 when he ran and I voted for him (my first election and voting experience), and I would vote for him again. I am astonished at the level of ignorance here and the pretense to know it all. You people really have no idea what you are talking about. Goldwater would hate Paul, as would any good Republican.

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FTL, Your wholesale interjection of fact as regards the content of Foxnews.com is unacceptable. Please refrain from stating fact in the OT.

ps, I'm sure some other networks did it too while Clinton was president.

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Media Matters is a far-left wing organization which claims Hillary Clinton as a co-founder.

Charter member of the Vast Rightwing Conspiracy and proud of it.

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