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I planted three vines last year and we had a good yield of candy like grapes. I would like to expand the vineyard and was wondering what should be the process that I must undertake to plant some new ones from the ones that I already have? I am in the process of pruning and was wondering if some of the canes that I cut out can be rooted or do I have to dig for the roots and get some offshoots or actual root stems?
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Just buy some grape jelly and reverse-engineer it.

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If you're growing native grape species then just take cuttings, dip the bottom end into rooting hormone, and plant them in wet sand. They'll root before spring. In the spring just as they start to leaf out you transplant them. (It's better to transplant BEFORE they leaf-out but after they've had plenty of time to develop significant roots.)

If you're growing European varieties then you have an additional step of grafting the variety to a native rootstock. European varieties are not resistant to a couple of fungi that totally infect soil on this continent. In that case you're better off buying grafted and nursery-grown plants.

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If you're growing European varieties then you have an additional step of grafting the variety to a native rootstock. European varieties are not resistant to a couple of fungi that totally infect soil on this continent. In that case you're better off buying grafted and nursery-grown plants.
IIRC, that's the reason the French have we Merkins to thank for their viticulture industry in this day and age. Their native stocks were decimated by the fungi, and they had to import our California varieties in order to save their entire grape stock. I'm sure I have some part of this story incorrect, but I like sounding smart, anyway. Thank you, NPR
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IIRC, that's the reason the French have we Merkins to thank for their viticulture industry in this day and age. Their native stocks were decimated by the fungi, and they had to import our California varieties in order to save their entire grape stock. I'm sure I have some part of this story incorrect, but I like sounding smart, anyway. Thank you, NPR
That's the gist of it. The soil-borne fungal diseases originated in North America and made it to Europe through introduction of N. Am vines to France. Now French viticulture is totally dependent on muscadine rootstocks! Just about the perfect reverse of Dutch Elm and Chestnut Blight, which both originated in Europe.

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I recall Dutch Elm in Chicago as a kid. Within a matter of a very few years, just about every Elm tree in the city was lost. Very sad......

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So, we're equal part guilty and praiseworthy, eh? Sounds so very Merkin of us
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So, we're equal part guilty and praiseworthy, eh? Sounds so very Merkin of us
If blame you must, seek ye the USDA & fad-driven horticulturists. Both are addicted to the new and different at the expense of all else.

It's almost funny that the USDA, the largest single source of noxious plant, animal and farm, woodland, and range disease introductions in North America is also the agency charged with managing the introduction of new organisms to the USA as well as control or eradication of noxious introductions.

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The USDA runs the Forestry Service as well, right? Some real symmetry working there...

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