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No, there are better guns out there.... H&K, Walther, Browning, etc. something in at least .40 S&W caliber. You might want to consider a revolver, many folks consider them easier to control as they don't bounce around as much.....
Walther, H&K, or Sig Sauer make high end quality guns, but for my large hands and wrists, the Glock 21 chambered for .45 ACP with three of the old 13 round clips, and a box of black talons, are still my preference.
This Glock is the rare gun with which I can target shoot, and empty a clip one handed.
Apropos kick, my very impressive looking Colt Peacemaker 357 Magnum CTG kicks more than a mule, talk about recoil.
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I like the way the Model 92 9mm Beretta fits my hand. This one has law enforcement clip. I've never fired this one but I've fired my brother's which is just like it. I inherited this one from my dad. He carried it as his service firearm.
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The Berretta 92 is a proven good firearm, and weights 970 gramm.
The comparable Glock 17 (9mm) weights 625 gramm, less than the Berretta without a clip.
Gun enthusiasts either love, or hate Glock's, but the lower weight combined with reduced recoil makes a big difference.
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I didn't get to shoot anybody today.... sigh.

Oh well, tomorrow's another day.
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...If there was not one in the pipe ...
Never happen. If he knows what he's doing, there's a round in the chamber, hammer cocked and safety engaged. That's the proper way to carry a 1911 (Browning P35 or SIG P210).

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Walther, H&K, or Sig Sauer make high end quality guns, but for my large hands and wrists, the Glock 21 chambered for .45 ACP with three of the old 13 round clips, and a box of black talons, are still my preference.
This Glock is the rare gun with which I can target shoot, and empty a clip one handed.
Apropos kick, my very impressive looking Colt Peacemaker 357 Magnum CTG kicks more than a mule, talk about recoil.
In my opinion, recoil is in the hand of the beholder, my first handgun was a Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 Magnum. It kicks pretty good by some standards, but the grip works to mitigate some of the recoil by rolling up in the hand. Anyway, I guess the point was not so much the recoil of the autoloaders, because most aren't all that bad, even the 1911 (again in my opinion) but they do jump around a lot when that slide starts to fly back and forth... I find it's harder to re acquire the target with an auto then with a revolver.

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The Beretta 92 is a proven good firearm, and weights 970 gram.
The comparable Glock 17 (9mm) weights 625 gram, less than the Berretta without a clip.
Gun enthusiasts either love, or hate Glock's, but the lower weight combined with reduced recoil makes a big difference.
I can agree with your assessment of the Beretta 92, it’s a decent, reliable firearm, but trouble free, not really… You may recall in the early military contracts they had some serious problems with cracked slides, there was even a company that manufactured a closed top slide to eliminate the stress risers that was thought to cause those slides to fracture. Yes, I know about the ammo problems, but the slides still were a failure problem, as were the frames.

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You might want to consider a revolver, many folks consider them easier to control as they don't bounce around as much.....
I agree with that. The nicest handgun I ever shot was a Colt (?) revolver with a 6 inch barrel, chambered for .357 Magnum. It just felt right. I shot a Glock the same day (9mm) and I just didn't find it accurate by comparison. Now of course, these were rental guns at a range I was at, so the Glock may not have been in the best shape. But that .357 was sweet.
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I have a Taurus "Total Titanium" snubby in .38 Special +P that is a blast to shoot. 148 grain hollow base wadcutters and a light load of Unique powder make it cheap and lots of fun to shoot, surprisingly accurate at 7 yards. I have the hollow base loaded backwards as a home defense load; it’s an old Police trick that helps the old and underpowered .38.
I have a 12 gauge pump with #4 shot as a back up.

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In my opinion, recoil is in the hand of the beholder, my first handgun was a Ruger Super Blackhawk in .44 Magnum. It kicks pretty good by some standards, but the grip works to mitigate some of the recoil by rolling up in the hand. Anyway, I guess the point was not so much the recoil of the autoloaders, because most aren't all that bad, even the 1911 (again in my opinion) but they do jump around a lot when that slide starts to fly back and forth... I find it's harder to re acquire the target with an auto then with a revolver.


I can agree with your assessment of the Beretta 92, it’s a decent, reliable firearm, but trouble free, not really… You may recall in the early military contracts they had some serious problems with cracked slides, there was even a company that manufactured a closed top slide to eliminate the stress risers that was thought to cause those slides to fracture. Yes, I know about the ammo problems, but the slides still were a failure problem, as were the frames.
Bringing this firearm home after WWII without capture papers was perhaps the only illegal thing my father ever did. I believe him when he said he took it from a dead officer. I've never seen a need to have another. It's big, loud, heavy, inaccurate as hell, but fast enough to get the job done. A classic!
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I prefer a 1911



I know that a lot of people like their Berettas, Sigs or Glocks. But for me, if it's going to be a 9mm, I'll go along with Jeff Cooper who said, "If one is going to carry an underpowered pistol he should carry the neatest and handiest one available, and that is the Heckler & Koch P7."


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