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I hardly ever eat at cafes, so I guess this thread doesn't apply to me...

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Bravo! Bush EPA Follows Through

In an effort to solidify regulations instead of having a hodgepodge of rules for the special snowflakes the EPA is finally putting a Federal stamp on emission requirements. This can only help simplify and speed up the process.

While short-term the environmentalists will complain, in the long run this is a better, more rational plan. And with a very good potential for a Democratically held Congress and WH in under 2 years, they hard details can be ironed out on a Federal level giving a solid roadmap for testing and research.

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EPA denies state CO2 rules

By HARRY STOFFER, AUTOMOTIVE NEWS


Auto industry leaders said they hoped the Bush administration would use a tough new federal fuel economy law as added legal grounds on which to deny states their own greenhouse gas emissions rules.

The administration did not waste any time following through.

On Wednesday, Dec. 20, just eight hours after President Bush signed a bill creating a 35 mpg fuel economy standard by 2020, EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson announced a rejection of California’s requested waiver under the Clean Air Act.

“The Bush Administration is moving forward with a clear national solution--not a confusing patchwork of state rules--to reduce America’s climate footprint from vehicles,” Johnson said.

Had the waiver been granted, California and at least 14 other states would have been able to enforce greenhouse gas emission limits on cars and trucks, starting with 2009 models. The principal target is carbon dioxide, a byproduct of burning fuel.

Automakers had said they did not know how they could comply with state-by-state rules. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said late Wednesday the state would sue to overturn the EPA ruling.

The decision, which was expected, set off a series of denunciations from states’ officials and environmental groups.

It also is expected to intensify court battles and will certainly be an issue in Congress next year.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said in an e-mail last night, “We will examine this decision closely as part of our broader efforts to ensure America’s energy security.”

Dave McCurdy, president of the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, said: “We commend the EPA for protecting a national, 50-state program.” The alliance represents the Detroit 3, Toyota and six other automakers.

EPA denies state CO2 rules - AutoWeek Magazine

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One step, in a step of many to follow, by Dems, to limit our freedoms and our own state's choices to be a state of one. Hello socialism!! Can't wait for the next choice the government is going to make for me.

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One step, in a step of many to follow, to limit our freedoms and our own state's choices to be a state of one. Hello socialism!! Can't wait for the next choice the government is going to make for me.
You have it SO wrong......

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I think the government should guarantee a Prius in every garage.

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Whats nice too is now that there are mandates on the amount of ethanol that must be produced.

ALL food is going to noticably increase in price.

I hear from the farmers here, they really dont have any desire to produce anything but corn because its bringing so much more revenue than anything else.

The few I have spoken to dont plan on growing anything else until in becomes as financially beneficial as corn.

Gotta wonder if anyone in congress is smarter than a 5th grader.

Can we say forced inflation??

But hey as Bot so eloquintly said, "Do it for the children".

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One step, in a step of many to follow, by Dems, to limit our freedoms and our own state's choices to be a state of one. Hello socialism!! Can't wait for the next choice the government is going to make for me.
Wait, Socialism is the bad "ism", right?
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Wait, Socialism is the bad "ism", right?
There are many other "bad" 'isms...

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Jay-ism?

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