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Old 12-19-2007, 07:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Teacher sued for exposing religious bigotry

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Tue, 12/18/2007 - 23:42 - clark
A Christian group is suing a teacher in a California public school district who tried to explain to his students about religious bigotry. Dr. James Corbett's, who teaches advanced placement European history at Capistrano Valley High School, is accused of violating constitutional rights of the students by the Advocates for Faith and Freedom (AFF).
According to the complaint, here's are few examples of what Dr. Corbett said to upset the Christians:
1. “How do you get the peasants to oppose something that is in their best interest? Religion. You have to have something that is irrational to counter that rational approach.. ..[W]hen you put on your Jesus glasses, you can’t see the truth.”
2. “Now, the Boy Scouts have said, unless you’re willing to love God, and unless you’re willing to — unless you’re not gay, um— they are saying, being gay excludes you. Not believing God or not professing a belief in God also excludes you. . . .But you see, until they started these rules, Boy Scouts used to — or Boy Scout troops usually met at schools, and places like that, parks, government buildings. They can’t do that anymore. can’t do that anymore, because now they are, in their mind, homophobic a organization. simple.. .It’s call{ed) separation of church and state. The Boy Scouts can’t have it both ways. If they want to be an exclusive, Christian organization or an exclusive, God-fearing organization, then receive any more support from the state, and shouldn’t"
3. “People — in the industrialized world the people least likely to go to church are the Swedes. The people in the industrialized world most likely to go to church are the Americans. America has the highest crime rate of all industrialized nations, and Sweden has the lowest. The next time somebody tells you religion is connected with morality, you might want to ask them about that. Urn, and let’s see. Is there something else on that? No.”
4. “After an outbreak of pregnancies among middle school girls, education officials in the city [of Brooklyn, Maine] had decided to make birth control pills available at the middle school health centers...1’ [O]ther people say, you know, we shouldn’t be teaching our kids how to have sex safely. We should be teaching our kids abstinence. Well, we know abstinence doesn’t work. And we know one other thing; and that is, once people become sexually active, they often don’t stop for, like, 40 or 50 years. I mean, generally, when you start you don’t, like, have a conversion and try to become re-virginized, you know. It’s not going to happen.”
5. "Let’s say — and there is a lot of reasons women take birth control pills, including just, you know, organizing a period so that it happens — instead of randomly, that it happens at the right time. So, you know, let’s say, for the sake of argument, that there is a girl in here that a doctor gave birth control pills to because she needed to regulate her cycle. Girls, as soon as you start taking those pills, at the moment, you’re going to be going, ‘Whoopie. Time to have sex.’ I don’t think so. You know, so the argument that it’s just going to make them have sex is just absurd. If that were true, girls, then the first time somebody takes you out on a date and halfway through the date pulls out a condom, and says, ‘Hey, we’re safe. Let’s go,’ all the girls would say, ‘Sure.’ But they’re not gonna say that, you know. Urn, now, uh, you know, the arguments — the way it works is, parents have to give permission for their child to go to the health center. But they do not have to have parental permission to get the birth control pills. And, in fact, it’s confidential. . . .So, you know, some parents are objecting, saying it’s taking too much power away from the parents. Parents are pretty irresponsible. And so is the Bush administration with its abstinence policy. Spending billions of dollars on something they know doesn’t work, wonderful. Wonderful. Idiotic. Urn, birth control pills for middle school girls. My mother has a solution to this problem. And I’m sure the girls were careful. My mother thinks that all the boys, when they reach. puberty, should be given a reversible vasectomy."
6. "Conservatives don’t want women to avoid pregnancies. That’s interfering with God’s work. You got to stay pregnant, barefoot, and in the kitchen and have babies until your body collapses. All over the world, doesn’t matter where you go, the conservatives want control over women’s reproductive capacity. Everywhere in the world. From conservative Christians in this country to, urn, Muslim fundamentalists in Afghanistan. It’s the same. It’s stunning how vitally interested they are in controlling women.”
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"Exposing"?? Nice bent on the writer him/her self.

Try adding his opinion where it doesnt belong. Im glad he is being sued. Hes not there to teach religion or his opinion of such.

I had the same kind of teacher in college who taught western civ, yet interjected on all to often times how superior the democratic party was to republicans and how much better the world would be if everyone was a democrat. Needless to say we butted heads and I complianed to the school but it fell on deaf ears.
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I agree with BB, I saw this on the news today and it seems the writer has really put his spin on this story and the teacher is nothing but a piece of shit, what he is spouting is against the law.
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Context is everything.

The teacher could have prefaced his remarks by saying he was going to challenge their basic beliefs by arguing from a commie perspective. On other days did he argue from a religious fundamentalist perspective? How about a Demopublican's perspective?

Hopefully the context will come out at trial.

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Can someone tell me which 'examples' are not true? Can someone be sued for speaking the truth while acting as a teacher? What are the cash damages, and how should these damages be compensated?
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Can someone tell me which 'examples' are not true? Can someone be sued for speaking the truth while acting as a teacher? What are the cash damages, and how should these damages be compensated?
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Can someone tell me which 'examples' are not true? Can someone be sued for speaking the truth while acting as a teacher? What are the cash damages, and how should these damages be compensated?
Well I think that the group or person suing this teacher must sue for something equivalent to what the universe is worth. Think about it, what's the damage? Someone's universe got rocked I say, so it's only fair to ask for that if this group or person strongly believe that God exists and that this universe is his creation. What do you think?
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Why not? There's a Devil's Advocate.
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Everyone needs a lawyer. Even God. "He who represents himself in court, has a fool for a client." Nuff said.
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