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For nefarious reasons, I'd love to see Moveon.org ads on NBC. Their ads, e.g. the Gen Betrayus, seem to only backfire on them. A ton of folks would question why NBC would run that crap.
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If you read what I wrote you would see that I am siding AGAINST NBC.

Would you be hammering NBC if they had refused a MoveOn spot that had the exact same verbiage except replaced MoveOn where Freedom Watch stuck their PAC name? THAT IS THE QUESTION?

I would be against both because the precedent is the same and NBC has opened up bad policy during this election cycle. Nothing good will come of it.
In the highly unlikely event that moveon.org wanted to run that particular ad, you damn right I'd blast NBC for refusing to run it! No doubt about it...

It is the nature of the ad, not the organization that is at issue!

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Ok, here is what I don't understand. If there truly is "freedom" in a country, then why isn't NBC "free" to decide which ads it wants to air, and which ads it does not want to air.

I completely support my troops and I wear that belief on my sleeve (and on my head, and on my car as well) so that anyone who I encounter outside my work life will see my beliefs, which I am free to have and hold and broadcast on my own. But I also accept the right of other people to hold their own beliefs, whatever they are. That's part of living in a free society. But I don't wear my "support our troops" ball cap at work, because it is a political message that my employer may or may not wish to align themselves with, and they have a business to run. They get to make that decision when I'm on their dime.

NBC, or any other broadcaster or media outlet, has the right to choose what message they broadcast. If they do not have the right to make that choice, then a free press/media does not exists, which is one of the basic tenets for determining if your society is free or not.

NBC has their reasons for not wanting to align themselves with this message (which is not benign and definitely has a purpose, whether or not you agree with that purpose is up to you) and have chosen to not accept the ad. The PAC responsible for the ad has in turn capitalized upon the decision and has obtained more coverage and awareness through the turn-down than they ever could have if their ad was accepted, and at no cost to them. Their message wasn't stifled or suppressed.

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^^^^^It is called fairness, and once that comes in to play then you learn the true meaning of irony..........right Modster.........
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Who ever said life was going to be fair? It isn't called "fairness", it is called "business". NBC doesn't exist to be "fair", they exist to generate a profit and maximize shareholder value. For whatever reason, NBC feels that this ad is going to be bad for their business. So it is their right to turn it down.

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^^^^^Tou may want to read post #2 of this thread and rethink...........
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^^^^^It is called fairness, and once that comes in to play then you learn the true meaning of irony..........right Modster.........
So then you endorse giving equal time to the left on the AM radio?

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