Date registered: Oct 2004
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The same "transparent and worthless spin" as you call it, is the B.S. you are spewing. How is a fact spun? I know that waterboarding has been, and probably will continue to be used, to extract intel from detainees, as well as a few other techniques equally or more disgusting to you. That is a fact. I don't defend the techniques, I'm just telling you they have been used for far longer than our involvement in Iraq, believe me. Do they work? Absolutely, positively. Not 100% of the time, but they work a lot more often than asking for the information nicely, or slightly less aggressive techniques such as sleep deprivation, so you are wrong in your assertion that this never works. The French could fuck up an empty room by phone, so their experience means squat to me. You, like Drew and Jim, have somehow twisted this topic into another Us VS Them pissing contest because of your hatred for the President and the Republican party. That was not the question, "who is going to win the next election?", or "how badly will those POS neocons lose the next election?". I answered Jim's question which seemed to piss off nearly everyone and cause them (like you) to somehow come to the conclusion that I think we should resort to any tactic, even the murder of women and children, and that every move made by the current administration is automatically endorsed by me as well. It's not.
Last edited by Fast55; 12-11-2007 at 04:12 PM.