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Take this opportunity to look smart, Jaybaugh. Tell us who leaked the NIE to the press. Jim
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So all of you "experts" really believe that Iran doesnt want a nuclear bomb?? Its the pinnacle of any nation to have nuclear capabilties. What better way to "wipe" Israel off the map than with a bomb capable of doing as such? Why is it that the EU and NATO dont trust the NIE report?

EU, NATO to keep pressure on Iran despite report | U.S. | Reuters

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Why does a reluctance to drop nuclear weapons on, or perform an invasion of Iran become analogous to trusting them blindly and implicitly? What nations are under tighter scrutiny than Iran from the standpoint of nuclear activities?

If you think that endless escalation is appropriate with everyone who stubbornly acts against your wishes, you end up at murder - every single time.

I sure hope people who think that way don't have stubborn, smart children, because those kids won't see their 12th birthday.
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So all of you "experts" really believe that Iran doesnt want a nuclear bomb?? Its the pinnacle of any nation to have nuclear capabilties. What better way to "wipe" Israel off the map than with a bomb capable of doing as such? Why is it that the EU and NATO dont trust the NIE report?

EU, NATO to keep pressure on Iran despite report | U.S. | Reuters

If you guys feel you can trust Iran as an honest nation, I have some ocean front property in California for cheap!!
We cut off ties with Iran since 1979 and had them under embargo and many other financial squeezes but we never opened up a communication channel to at least iron out our differences. Would you blame them if we kept this hostile stance and asked them to stay in the dark ages because it will not please us and Israel otherwise? Do you think they are bent on our destruction and that's why we must keep the pressure? If so, how come they have not unleashed a 9/11 on us that a two cents organization like Al Qaeda could? Maybe we should just bomb them into a glass factory and not worry about answering these questions because they hate us anyway, right?
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Why does a reluctance to drop nuclear weapons on, or perform an invasion of Iran become analogous to trusting them blindly and implicitly? What nations are under tighter scrutiny than Iran from the standpoint of nuclear activities?

If you think that endless escalation is appropriate with everyone who stubbornly acts against your wishes, you end up at murder - every single time.

I sure hope people who think that way don't have stubborn, smart children, because those kids won't see their 12th birthday.
I can think of one that was -- Iraq. The fact that Iraq couldn't sneeze or fart without our knowing of it didn't deter a wanton act of mass murder.

And BadBenz, if you demand an "honest nation", it may be time to relocate, though I hesitate to suggest a destination.

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If so, how come they have not unleashed a 9/11 on us that a two cents organization like Al Qaeda could?
Because they have a commodity to sell on the open market, and even if the US doesn't buy any of it from them, nations that are friendly/allied with the US do. They wont risk the loss of income. al Qaeda, on the other hand, only has an ideology to sell. They don't fear the loss of income.
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So all of you "experts" really believe that Iran doesnt want a nuclear bomb?? Its the pinnacle of any nation to have nuclear capabilties. What better way to "wipe" Israel off the map than with a bomb capable of doing as such? Why is it that the EU and NATO dont trust the NIE report?

EU, NATO to keep pressure on Iran despite report | U.S. | Reuters

If you guys feel you can trust Iran as an honest nation, I have some ocean front property in California for cheap!!
No one, not even the NIE makes claim that Iran is different from any other nation in that they all covet having nukes. Luckily, coveting nukes and having nukes is chasm separated by a significant investment in very hard to hide industrial technology, materials and international trade. So, Iran merely shut down its cash drain. The point here that you continually try to avoid is that Bush LIED about this as he orchestrated this drumbeat of Iran being such a threat. And now, even in the face of his lie, he maintains his arrogant, ignorant stance of aggression.

There are ways to get what you want without beating people up. Unfortunately bullies only learn that when they get their own asses kicked. We need an administration capable of leading without bullying. We cannot afford another front in this illegal occupation of the Middle East.

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Because they have a commodity to sell on the open market, and even if the US doesn't buy any of it from them, nations that are friendly/allied with the US do. They wont risk the loss of income. al Qaeda, on the other hand, only has an ideology to sell. They don't fear the loss of income.
I agree, and that's a good reason we should invest in negotiating a livable resolution to iron out our differences. Think about it, if Saudi Arabia did not have its oil don't you think that your logic about Iran would have applied here too?
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What everyone here is ignoring is that this administration has been wildly successful in dealing w/ our enemies by using a big stick and a little carrot; and I believe President Bush wants to make Iran out to be evil so that he can continue to rally the international community to bring sanctions--or worse. Since 9/11 the "us vs. them" mentality President Bush has espoused has resulted in Libya, South Africa and North Korea opening up to inspections and getting rid of their nuclear weapons. That is an incredible record, and I fear that Iran was just let off the hook by this NIE report. Whether it is correct or bogus there is absolutely no reason to believe that they won't eventually develop The Bomb in the future. In fact, I am now convinced the report will give them cover to do just that.

You people really DO need to wake up before it is too late, or there really will be a WWIII!

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