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[QUOTE=Jayhawk;2645001]I think President Bush was a student of Sun Tzu...

Umm no

Sun Tzu states that the best war is the one that is avoided
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President Bush is a student of the neocons that conned him and our nation into perpetual bleeding.

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Oh, c'mon -- I don't need to hear any more about cones......

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So what are we to do about this poorly planned occupation anyway? Fuck the hind sight, we should be talking about the future.
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So what are we to do about this poorly planned occupation anyway? Fuck the hind sight, we should be talking about the future.
There is no future success from not learning from mistakes. Our arrogance keeps us from moving forward because we think we know everything. I say it's high time to fire 90% of our analysts in our various intelligence and think tank organizations. We need people on the ground, in the field and we need to infiltrate as many groups wanting us harm as possible to even think of "winning" this thing. Analyzing people, cultures and intentions by remote control either academic or guess work is just that, bullshit. We can't have other nations doing this bidding for us, so forget Israel playing that role or counting on the Russians to feel sorry for our ass and give us some crumbs to feed on. We need a cadre of risk takers willing to hit the ground running in those regions and brings us the beacon. We can't afford to put our soldiers in harms' way then decide what went wrong.
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There is no future success from not learning from mistakes. Our arrogance keeps us from moving forward because we think we know everything. I say it's high time to fire 90% of our analysts in our various intelligence and think tank organizations. We need people on the ground, in the field and we need to infiltrate as many groups wanting us harm as possible to even think of "winning" this thing. Analyzing people, cultures and intentions by remote control either academic or guess work is just that, bullshit. We can't have other nations doing this bidding for us, so forget Israel playing that role or counting on the Russians to feel sorry for our ass and give us some crumbs to feed on. We need a cadre of risk takers willing to hit the ground running in those regions and brings us the beacon. We can't afford to put our soldiers in harms' way then decide what went wrong.
Did we lose our beacon?

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Did we lose our beacon?

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LOL we didn't even have it... the bacon that is
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I think President Bush was a student of Sun Tzu...

Umm no

Sun Tzu states that the best war is the one that is avoided
Would that it could have been...

Don't believe everything you think
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5,6. The Moral Law causes the people to be in complete accord with their ruler, so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by any danger.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Thar, hiixed it far ya.
what kind of redneck gargle are you trying to speak?
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