Originally Posted by torontomichael
Crusades? Lets talk facts.I find it laughable that Middle Eastern residents use the "crusades" as reason to grudge the West.And here you are, in 2007, saying I should accept this bizarre,ancient grudge with understanding? So you think I had better accept as valid the grudges of morons based on a war which ended 800 years ago? No way.We won't go forward accepting & validating such long-standing transgressions. In fact the West has gone forward BECAUSE we aren't shackled by passing the hatred of ancient wrongs from one generation to the next (a trait all too evident elsewhere in the Middle east). Applying their unforgiving reasoning, I could justify the West's anger towards the Middle east for 9/11 for the NEXT 800 years! Final note on the Middle East and specifically the "crusades" rant which is Bin Ladens' song (as it is yours too judging by your post). AFTER the crusades were long over, it was in fact the Islamic powers that invaded Europe, and on numerous occassions, as far west as Vienna,Austria (or does that qualify as "irrelevant" in your mind?). European history 1200-1550 clearly shows that it was the Europeans who were "invaded" by islamists. So why is it "justifiable" for the Middle east to use the crusades as reason to feel wronged yet Europeans cannot say boo about their being invaded by the Middle East? So I've 0 interest in anyone yakking about a war now over for 800 years as justification for anything.And "walking the streets of Jerusalem" doesn't...and won't...change a damn thing.
A good analysis, which omits mention of the fact that Islam at this MOMENT is invading Europe once again, TODAY, one person at a time (in the same way Mexico is invading the States with illegal aliens)
Europe's lax immigration laws allow millions of Muslims, with exploding birth rates, from Norway to Spain, to invade Europe again, and enough of them are low skilled, under educated, undermotivated, unwillig to assimilate, and extreme religious fanatics nursing 1,000 year old religious grudges against their hosts, that it would be dangerous and foolish for the USA to admit any of them as refugees.
The Evidence of their crazed hatreds is plain enough and plentiful enough for anyone to see, in the Spanish train bombing, the London and Scotland bombings, French riots, the Danish cartoons, the Theo Van Gogh murder in Holland, and the crazed screaming mobs baying for infidel blood over the latest "Capital offense" to their blood soaked religion.
Those people have not and will NEVER stop nursing ancient religious grudges as they continue to spread hatred and violence under their religious banners.
There is a GOOD reason they have not met with open arms when they seek admission to North America in massive numbers for economic, educational or others, they are not welcomed or trusted with a historic record like that.