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British teacher held over teddy bear name Briton allowed her class of 7-year-olds to choose teddy bear's name
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KHARTOUM, Sudan - A British primary school teacher has been arrested in Sudan, accused of insulting Islam's Prophet by letting her class of 7-year-olds name a teddy bear Muhammad, her school said on Monday.
Colleagues of Gillian Gibbons told Reuters they feared for her safety after receiving reports that young men had already started gathering outside the Khartoum police station where the Liverpool woman was being held.
Teachers at Unity High School in central Khartoum said Gibbons, 54, made an innocent mistake and simply let her pupils choose their favorite name for the toy as part of a school project.
Police arrested Gibbons on Sunday at her home inside the school premises, said Unity director Robert Boulos, after a number of parents made a complaint to Sudan's Ministry of Education.
Boulos said she had since been charged with "blasphemy," an offense he said was punishable with up to three months in prison and a fine.
A spokesman from the British Embassy in Khartoum said it was still unclear whether Gibbons had been formerly charged. "We are following it up with the authorities and trying to meet her in person," he said.
Boulos said he had decided to close down the school until January for fear of reprisals in Sudan's predominantly Muslim capital. "This is a very sensitive issue."
"We are very worried about her safety," he added. "This was a completely innocent mistake. Miss Gibbons would have never wanted to insult Islam."
Class voted on toy name
Boulos said Gibbons was following a British National Curriculum course designed to teach young pupils about animals and their habitats. This year's animal was the bear.
Gibbons, who joined Unity in August, asked a girl to bring in her teddy bear to help the second grade class focus, said Boulos.
The teacher then asked the class to name the toy. "They came up with eight names including Abdullah, Hassan and Mohammed. Then she explained what it meant to vote and asked them to choose the name." Twenty out of the 23 children chose Muhammad.
Each child was allowed to take the bear home at weekends and asked to write a diary about what they did with the toy. Each entry was collected in a book with a picture of the bear on the cover, next to the message "My name is Muhammad," said Boulos.
The bear itself was not marked or labeled with the name in any way, he added, saying Sudanese police had now seized the book and had asked to interview the 7-year-old girl.
Boulos said the first he knew about the course was last week when he got a phone call from the Ministry of Education, saying a number of Muslim parents had made formal complaints.
One Muslim teacher at Unity, who also has a child in Gibbons' class, said she had not found the project offensive.
"I had no problem with it at all," the teacher said. "I know Gillian and she would never have meant it as an insult. I was just impressed that she got them to vote."
The country's state-controlled Sudanese Media Centre reported late Sunday that Gibbons had been arrested for "insulting the Prophet Muhammad." It said charges were being prepared "under article 125 of the criminal law" which covers insults against faith and religion.
No one was immediately available for comment from Sudan's ministries of Education or Justice.
Unity, an independent school founded in 1902, is governed by a board representing major Christian denominations in Sudan, but teaches both Christians and Muslims aged 4 to 18.
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Do you think she got arrested for allowing the bear to be named Mohamed or because she managed to make them vote about something?
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It's the 21st century version of savages eating missionaries. When I read the story my instinctive first thought was "Why bother with these people?" But of course, the woman presumably felt she could at least improve the lives of the innocent children.
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Absurd, disgusting, horrible, ridiculous, and sickening.

I think the only reason that atavistic "religion" did not die 1300 years ago like it should have, was that it was spread far and wide, at the point of a sword.

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It's the 21st century version of savages eating missionaries. When I read the story my instinctive first thought was "Why bother with these people?" But of course, the woman presumably felt she could at least improve the lives of the innocent children.
At least you admit your true feelings, is it because they are black or that they are a foreigner? Overall no real surprise for some that have traded posts with you..........
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She made a mistake.
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She made a mistake.
..........and perhaps even a fatal one, (you never can tell with that lot).
They are not especially known for their keen senses of humour, or appreciation of irony. Just ask any Danish cartoonist.

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At least you admit your true feelings, is it because they are black or that they are a foreigner? Overall no real surprise for some that have traded posts with you..........
heh, heh....Jaka, words of wisdom, indeed! heh, heh......
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Absurd, disgusting, horrible, ridiculous, and sickening.

I think the only reason that atavistic "religion" did not die 1300 years ago like it should have, was that it was spread far and wide, at the point of a sword.
heh, heh.......Mr Bigot! Is it spreading like wildfire in the US at the point of a sword? heh, heh...................ask your fellow American Brother Yusuf Estes! heh, heh.........
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At least you admit your true feelings, is it because they are black or that they are a foreigner? Overall no real surprise for some that have traded posts with you..........
Anyone who has traded posts with me, or who has reviewed my entire posting history and who has a modicum of intelligence, should be very clear as to where my prejudices lie. Since you are one of those who consistently demonstrates to be be not very bright, I will run through them again.

First and foremost, hypocrites. People who change their religion as a matter of convenience over faith. People who having 'declared' their faith 'cherry-pick' the areas which suit their agenda and ignore those areas which do not happen to suit them. For instance, 'Muslims' who are proud to admit they eat pork.

Boastful people, who delight in coming to a public forum and immediately start bragging about their abilities and possessions, even if such claims are based on petty amounts of wealth or knowledge.

People who claim to love their country of nationality or birth yet move away from it and delight in boasting that they no longer contribute to its well-being, by avoiding U.S. taxes.

And as it relates to my comment specifically in this thread-religious fanatics of any creed who place their primitive beliefs above and beyond the well-being of their fellow man and other sentient species on this planet.
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