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From BBC News
German cars 'least green in EU'

The BMW group cut emissions, but DaimlerChrysler's and VW's went up

Most cars sold in Europe are becoming more fuel-efficient, but German carmakers are going backwards according to a study by a green pressure group.
Transport and Environment (T&E) says an average new German car produced more CO2 per kilometre in 2006 than in 2005.
Among big German manufacturing groups, only BMW made progress, it says.
Cars made by French and Italian groups were 1.6% more efficient, it adds, but only two are close to hitting a 2008 target of 140g of CO2 per kilometre.
This target was adopted by the European Automobile Manufacturers Association (ACEA) in 1998.
The European Commission will outline proposals next month designed to ensure the average car sold in Europe produces no more than 120g/km by 2012.
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The average car produced by German manufacturers produced 173g/km in 2006 according to T&E - up 1g, or 0.6%, from 2005.
This was despite BMW's success in reducing the average emission of its cars by 2.5%, or from 188g/km to 184g/km.
The two manufacturing groups close to reaching the 140g/km limit for 2008 are Peugeot Citroen and Fiat. But only Peugeot Citroen will reach the target at its current rate of progress.
"The new figures reveal the importance of weight reduction in cutting CO2 emissions," the report says. "Companies like PSA Peugeot Citroen that cut weight also achieved emissions reductions in 2006. DaimlerChrysler and the Volkswagen group's cars got heavier and even more polluting on average."

Manufacturer group 2006 CO2 emissions (g/km) % change from 2005 Toyota 153 -5.00% Honda 154 -3.80% PSA Peugeot Citroen 142 -2.70% BMW 184 -2.50% Mazda 173 -2.00% Nissan 168 -1.60% Hyundai 167 -0.80% Renault 148 -0.80% Fiat 144 -0.50% Ford 162 -0.50% General Motors 157 -0.30% Volkswagen 166 0.90% Suzuki 166 1.80% DaimlerChrysler 188 2.80% Source: Transport and Environment
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Smutty that leads me straight to Einstein and Uhse "Du bist Albert Einstein. Du bist Deutschland." a billboard poster I've seen in Frankfurt.
Well, a whole lot of the Germans I run into every day sure aren't Albert Einstein, or even anything close, but then, who is? , pride is a sticky issue in Germany, that the word pride, Stolz, is never, ever heard under any circumstance.
They can be proud of their cars and Beate Uhse! she was, in the waning days of the war, a Luftwaffe pilot. After the war, unemployed, widowed, with kids to support, and looking around at the devastation of Germany, she took what little funds she had and printed up a booklet giving women straightforward information about birth control, a very controversial subject in those days, which she sold for a nominal fee via mail-order. Busted for obscenity, she stood trial and defended herself with common sense. She won, and began selling birth-control devices -- condoms and diaphragms -- through the mail. From there, she moved into other sex-related areas, and finally added bricks-and-mortar shops to her empire, selling sex toys, erotic clothing, and lots and lots of pornography. Today, it's a very small town indeed which doesn't have a Beate Uhse shop in it, and she'll probably best be remembered by East Germans as the name on the first piece of mail they got after their government fell: the Beate Uhse catalogue. Some of the very first capitalistic businesses in the East, too, were her shops, setting up in quonset huts and containers until she could get a more stable piece of real-estate. When she died a few years back, she must've been a billionaire: among her holdings is a virtual supermarket over by Zoo Station here in Berlin which also contains her Erotic Museum, which was once the collection of an erotica specialist in Munich. He offered to donate the whole collection to the city of Munich, and when they sniffed at him, Beate Uhse stepped right in and bingo! Instant museum. The real estate it's on isn't cheap, either: it's as centrally located as you get in West Berlin.
Which is to say that, next to some of the other choices -- Michael Schumacher, Otto Lilienthal, Albert Schweitzer, and our pal Herr Einstein -- she sort of sticks out...snort.
But what's most intriguing here isn't using Beate Uhse as an exemplar of German initiative -- by being proud of your country and its culture, you run the risk of slipping down the greasy slope into full-blown fascism again. The idea that national pride equals nationalism seems pretty much universal in Germany, although I would think that, having been there before, they'd be in an excellent position to stop the crazy train well before it pulled into that station.

They skate around a lot of dicey issues -- dicey to Germans, anyway. You can't invoke the past, because, uh, well, it was dicey. You can invoke the "Denker und Dichter" (thinkers and poets) image, although you have to use people like Lilienthal and Frau Uhse because there's been a certain lack of universally-loved authors since the war, nobody reads poetry, and nobody pays any attention to philosophers -- particularly post-war German ones. So instead of talking about national pride, it invokes rooting for your football team (not nearly as loaded with fascist baggage as it is in, say, England or Italy, although a meeting of rivals here can still scare the crap out of visiting Americans due to the massed singing and chanting -- and the rioting which sometime erupts when a left-wing team like St. Pauli meets a right-wing one). Germans, they are worth their carbon foot print !
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Carbon footprint yes. But the Germans (of all people) should set the carbon footprint of the future. After all the wwii is long gone and Germany should shine in the worlds eyes


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