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Now wait a sec. Earlier someone from the RIGHT was using a very similar figure to justify the increase in National Debt. So which way do you what it?

Is it a Bogus number, totally without merit which means that the $4.5Trillion increase in National Debt is Other Excess Spending?
Did I miss some posts or something? What are you talking about?

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Sorry, but I can't follow your train of thought... What does that mean?
it means we sold out to the devil

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Did I miss some posts or something? What are you talking about?
Earlier you said regarding the validity of the $3.5Trillion spent on the War in Iraq...
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I read yesterday in the USA Today that a few democrat staffers wrote that BS report, and that even most democrat Members have disavowed it as "speculative," "premature," "somewhat exaggerated." It is just another typical attack from the far left, and totally w/out merit.
I said that many people on the RIGHT use the HIGH expense of the WAR as an excuse for the reason Bush ran up $4.5Trillion on the National Debt. Now you, and others on the right are saying this report is just another attack from the far left, and totally w/o merit.

So that means the RIGHT is trying to say that the HIGH COST of the WAR is the reason for the $4.5Trillion increase in National Debt BUT a report that says the War costs $3.5Trillion is Bogus, that that number is totally without merit.

The NeoCons can't have it both ways. They can't use the high cost to excuse the Debt and ALSO say it is a false number when the high cost is used against them.

Does that 'splainin' help you Lucy?

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Earlier you said regarding the validity of the $3.5Trillion spent on the War in Iraq...


I said that many people on the RIGHT use the HIGH expense of the WAR as an excuse for the reason Bush ran up $4.5Trillion on the National Debt. Now you, and others on the right are saying this report is just another attack from the far left, and totally w/o merit.

So that means the RIGHT is trying to say that the HIGH COST of the WAR is the reason for the $4.5Trillion increase in National Debt BUT a report that says the War costs $3.5Trillion is Bogus, that that number is totally without merit.

The NeoCons can't have it both ways. They can't use the high cost to excuse the Debt and ALSO say it is a false number when the high cost is used against them.

Does that 'splainin' help you Lucy?
Tryin' to keep up w/ your convoluted "logic" is making me dizzy bear... I don't know about anyone else, but I have been completely consistent on the issue. It is true the war has contributed mightily to the deficit--though I don't think I have ever stated that here--but that in no way means the report could not be bogus. Besides, I was quoting the drive-by media not a right wing source on the report. And they said the democrat Members on the Committee didn't even buy their own staff report. As usual, you are not-so-newly-confused yourself.

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I wrote this somewhere else:

Let's look at some numbers; the total equity in real estate owned by all Americans is a little less than $11 trillion. This adventure into Iraq is costing us about $3.5 trillion.
For someone to spend as much as 30% of their equity on something it better be good. By good I mean it better have a return on investment of some sort.
So what do you think the ROI for the average American is going to be?
Ok, what do you think the ROI for the elites that run this war enterprise is going to be?

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Let's look at some numbers; the total equity in real estate owned by all Americans is a little less than $11 trillion. This adventure into Iraq is costing us about $3.5 trillion.
For someone to spend as much as 30% of their equity on something it better be good. By good I mean it better have a return on investment of some sort.
So what do you think the ROI for the average American is going to be?
Ok, what do you think the ROI for the elites that run this war enterprise is going to be?
Using false numbers to make a false analogy is dumb and dumber...

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Using false numbers to make a false analogy is dumb and dumber...
Show me where the numbers are false

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Show me where the numbers are false
Normally I'd say do your own damn homework, but even you have to realize that the $3.5T projection, by the democrat staff on the Joint Economic Committee, is more than $1 trillion higher than a recent forecast by the Congressional Budget Office. Hell, even the democrat Members don't believe it. But you will grasp at anything that is remotely negative.

To put just a little drive-by media perspective on it: The Numbers Guy : Parsing the Estimates on Iraq-War Costs

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