By EastCounty on 10/27/2007 at 12:57 p.m.
What we learned in the Cedar fire, and what I hear people learning over and over again, is that the assumption "the fire is way over there, it won't get to us" is a bad one. If you are getting smoke and ash, the embers and flames are next. Once a firestorm is upon you, you cannot outrun it. Leave hours and hours ahead of time. At the very least, if you stick around, vehicles should be fueled, loaded, and parked pointing toward the road.
Another bad assumption is that "somebody would tell us to leave if there were really danger." Reverse 911 saved a lot of people, but don't count on it. Don't count on the sheriff, the radio, the TV, your neighbors, or anything else. If there's fire near you, on a windy day, get out of there.
By BurningBush on 10/27/2007 at 1:07 p.m.
First, God sets their house on fire.
Then, he rescues them (but not some others).
Praise the Lord!
By Hair Trigger on 10/27/2007 at 1:42 p.m.
You always have to have a few leftist screwballs like LBeener and Burning Bush insert their atheiest BS into a nice human interest story.
By Jennnay02 on 10/27/2007 at 1:46 p.m.
We have a pool at our house too and I wondered the same thing during our fires if it would protect us in the unlikely chance that we had seconds to get out.
By Jennnay02 on 10/27/2007 at 1:50 p.m.
And BTW, I have to say that I'm glad that Burning Bush posted those comments because honestly, could you stand next to someone who had lost their home and say "by the grace of God, my house still stands"? The reason this couple got out alive was by their quick thinking and courage. My heart goes out to them and their neighbors who weren't as fortunate.
By BurningBush on 10/27/2007 at 2:01 p.m.
to Hair Trigger:
>>Maybe God is just giving the athiest's of California a little taste of Hell if they don't change their ways.
And the best way to do it is, of course, to burn alive some Catholics and Protestants.
By Jennnay02 on 10/27/2007 at 2:34 p.m.
When you say atheists, do you also mean Hindus, Buddhists, and other religious/spiritual groups who don't worship a Christian god? Oh, and i guess that would include babies and young children too. Jeez - really makes me want to practice Christianity if it means worshiping a god that destroys houses and human lives to "teach them a lesson". I have no problem with people who need religion in their lives - my only point is that how can you say that your god spared your life and home but destroyed someone else's. It defies logic.
By NBeener on 10/27/2007 at 3:14 p.m.
Jannay02: can you feel the love from the Christians in the room?
I can feel it.
btw: Exactly my point: this "God" character gets full marks for all the good things, but gets a pass on anything bad.
That's not "atheism," per se. It's just a rational, logical, and valid question:
How DOES one square that paradox in one's mind?
ps: to Hair Trigger: why does the introduction of "theism" register no complaint by you, yet the introduction of what YOU call "atheism" does?
By diceboxman on 10/27/2007 at 3:14 p.m.
It is amazing that the gentleman in the article said just one quote and everybody is getting all worked up over it. They were lucky period! Leave it alone. Be happy they are doing fine and mourn for the people that passed away. Any kind of tragedy is sad.
By BurningBush on 10/27/2007 at 3:32 p.m.
I just think that in order to avoid such disaster in the future, it would be better for poor mr&mrs Bielasz, and for all of us actually, to spend time and money not on "finding a Church", but on simple wildfire protection measures.
By mdnghtmike on 10/27/2007 at 4:19 p.m.
maybe they should have evacuated like the police and fire said now they have a story HELLO no more publicity for them knuckleheads dont want t hear anymore about them
By right hook on 10/27/2007 at 4:22 p.m.
i had to reread the story to find where it said God started the fire after reading some comments
but he didnt
"We survived in our pool," Bielasz said between coughs. "We have a guardian angel."
part of the story was about having a guardian angel to oversee us on our time of need when all " simple wildfire protection measures" fail
praise God or whatever you call the Divine
By NBeener on 10/27/2007 at 4:38 p.m.
"praise God or whatever you call the Divine"
Didn't he/she/it SET their house ablaze, though?
That's where I get a little confused....
By schmitz7686 on 10/27/2007 at 4:43 p.m.
There really is no metephysical world or God. Its all biology in a physical world. I always say, "prove he metaphysical?"
Glad the family made it through too..remarkable
By right hook on 10/27/2007 at 5:02 p.m.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, [your name],
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Hamlet Act 1, scene 5, 159-167
By Bud_SD on 10/27/2007 at 5:03 p.m.
'God' - the external 'Santa Claus' version had nothing to do with their survival. They saved themselves. They used their heads and exhausted all of their options until the pool was the last one left. End of story.
By toydrum on 10/27/2007 at 5:05 p.m.
For whatever reason, this couple was not notified about the mandatory evacuations but they had an amazing and wonderful survival.
This story also highlights why people who DO get the word about evacuations should go. Even if you think you have clear space around you and think you can stay and save your house, you can't see everything around you and could end up trapped by fire that changes directions or suddenly flares up from newly downed power lines.
I extend my sympathies to the families of those who didn't survive and thankful good wishes to the many, many thousands of people who did.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?