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Clinton vows review of executive power

Michael Tomasky in Washington
Tuesday October 23, 2007
Guardian Unlimited


Hillary Clinton would launch a policy review as president with an eye towards giving up some of the executive powers accumulated by George Bush, she tells Guardian America in an interview today.
The New York senator and frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination also accuses the Bush administration's broad brush approach to terrorism of making it harder to understand "what it is we were up against", and expresses concerns about the attitude of the president's nominee for attorney general to interrogation and "expansive" executive power.


On the accumulation of White House power under the current administration, Ms Clinton said the president and Dick Cheney both had taken actions "beyond any power the Congress would have granted" and - even when congressional authorisation was possible - chosen not to pursue it "as a matter of principle".
"The power grab undertaken by the Bush-Cheney administration has gone much further than any other president and has been sustained for longer," she said. "Other presidents, like Lincoln, have had to take on extraordinary powers but would later go to Congress for either ratification or rejection."

Ms Clinton said the accumulation of executive power had put America into "new territory" because Mr Bush and the vice president had taken the view that were what previously extraordinary powers were now inherent powers that belonged to the White House.

"I think I'm going to have to review everything they've done, because I've been on the receiving end of that," she said. Ms Clinton stated it was "absolutely" conceivable that, as president, she would give up executive powers in the name of constitutional principle.

"That has to be part of the review I undertake when I get to the White House, and I intend to do that," she said.

Ms Clinton, speaking by telephone from Las Vegas, would not say how she would vote on the confirmation of Michael Mukasey, Mr Bush's nominee to succeed Alberto Gonzales as attorney general, but said his views on executive power and interrogation were a concern to her.

On the Bush administration's terrorism policies, Ms Clinton argued it had been a mistake to paint all terrorists with "a broad brush, which has not been particularly helpful in understanding what it is we were up against". She said claims that terrorists hate Americans for their freedoms had not proven to be an effective diagnosis.

"I believe that terrorism is a tool that has been utilised throughout history to achieve certain objectives. Some have been ideological, others territorial. There are personality-driven terroristic objectives.

"They may not share all that much in terms of what is the philosophical or ideological underpinning."

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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Oh please, she was all about power simply as a First Lady
I have a feeling that she would turn the place into a palace of S&M but maybe that's a good thing, who knows!

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If she leads a successful Democratic Party dumping of Michael Mukasey, the new AG nominee, I will reconsider my general disdain for her. This is a cause that needs to be serviced - and offers her a chance to show leadership in a positive direction instead of being a leader of pandering to audiences for cash donations to buy votes. Jim
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She would never give up any executive powers she would keep them in her black bag of tricks to come out when she sees fit. Bait and Switch, Vote for me and I will change the system unless I see a reason after I am president to not change the system.

I really do not see how a man as smart as you are FTL could be suckered in by this ass of a woman.
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She would never give up any executive powers she would keep them in her black bag of tricks to come out when she sees fit. Bait and Switch, Vote for me and I will change the system unless I see a reason after I am president to not change the system.

I really do not see how a man as smart as you are FTL could be suckered in by this ass of a woman.
Aren't you the one who was pissing and moaning about "mind reading" a while back?

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Aren't you the one who was pissing and moaning about "mind reading" a while back?

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No mind reading involved here with Hillary it is clearly written on a wall for all to see, good luck and may God help you fellas if she is elected.......
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^ I'm surprised you aren't pulling for her. She's all for the continuation of Bush ME policy that you constantly laud. Maybe she'll even nuke the ME for you.

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^ I'm surprised you aren't pulling for her. She's all for the continuation of Bush ME policy that you constantly laud. Maybe she'll even nuke the ME for you.
In Hillary's case, I would rather lose the battle and win the war.......
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