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KY is a rather third-rate lubricant, but I'm glad they were able to pull-out a squeaker.
Now see that is my point exactly, do you honestly believe Gore could come up with something like that, you have the stuff, if only the Nobel committee knew about it.........
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Hey bear: KY just beat #1 LSU 43-37!! That is incredible!!! You really should have been home for this one!
I was on the phone with my wife. She said folks were setting off fireworks. I am guessing there will be a good number of disorderlies this evening. With good reason. I tried to get it on the radio but no luck out here on the Left Coast.

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^^^^Well written Bear but I am not convinced on this climate change, personally believe it is ole Mother Earth at work, it has been documented that has happened before man came on the scene. Too bad none of us really know for another 20 or 30 years if it for real or a farce.

AS for Al Whore he lost me when he claimed to invent the internet and then all that crying about 2000
All the research has said all along that Mother Nature goes through its cycles, that has never been in doubt. It is the exacerbation of the Industrial Revolution that everyone is trying to pull the throttle back on. Mother Nature's cycles can take care of themselves and tend to be self righting. She has not, however had man's hand dicking with the formula prior to this particular cycle, which appear to be causing an acceleration that might just not right itself so easily. Or it might right itself in a way that we, as a species might not enjoy.

And when you go back and look at the "invented the internet" thing for what was actually said you see that there has been a bunch of Rushspin in the O'Spin Zone that has taken that to a place it never was. But it IS a great joke.

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All the research has said all along that Mother Nature goes through its cycles, that has never been in doubt. It is the exacerbation of the Industrial Revolution that everyone is trying to pull the throttle back on. Mother Nature's cycles can take care of themselves and tend to be self righting. She has not, however had man's hand dicking with the formula prior to this particular cycle, which appear to be causing an acceleration that might just not right itself so easily. Or it might right itself in a way that we, as a species might not enjoy.

And when you go back and look at the "invented the internet" thing for what was actually said you see that there has been a bunch of Rushspin in the O'Spin Zone that has taken that to a place it never was. But it IS a great joke.
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All the research has said all along that Mother Nature goes through its cycles, that has never been in doubt. It is the exacerbation of the Industrial Revolution that everyone is trying to pull the throttle back on. Mother Nature's cycles can take care of themselves and tend to be self righting. She has not, however had man's hand dicking with the formula prior to this particular cycle, which appear to be causing an acceleration that might just not right itself so easily. Or it might right itself in a way that we, as a species might not enjoy.

And when you go back and look at the "invented the internet" thing for what was actually said you see that there has been a bunch of Rushspin in the O'Spin Zone that has taken that to a place it never was. But it IS a great joke.
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ONE of the world's foremost meteorologists has called the theory that helped Al Gore share the Nobel Peace Prize "ridiculous" and the product of "people who don't understand how the atmosphere works".

Dr William Gray, a pioneer in the science of seasonal hurricane forecasts, told a packed lecture hall at the University of North Carolina that humans were not responsible for the warming of the earth.

His comments came on the same day that the Nobel committee honoured Mr Gore for his work in support of the link between humans and global warming.

"We're brainwashing our children," said Dr Gray, 78, a long-time professor at Colorado State University. "They're going to the Gore movie [An Inconvenient Truth] and being fed all this. It's ridiculous."

At his first appearance since the award was announced in Oslo, Mr Gore said: "We have to quickly find a way to change the world's consciousness about exactly what we're facing."

Mr Gore shared the Nobel prize with the United Nations climate panel for their work in helping to galvanise international action against global warming.

But Dr Gray, whose annual forecasts of the number of tropical storms and hurricanes are widely publicised, said a natural cycle of ocean water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water - was responsible for the global warming that he acknowledges has taken place.

However, he said, that same cycle meant a period of cooling would begin soon and last for several years.

"We'll look back on all of this in 10 or 15 years and realise how foolish it was," Dr Gray said.

During his speech to a crowd of about 300 that included meteorology students and a host of professional meteorologists, Dr Gray also said those who had linked global warming to the increased number of hurricanes in recent years were in error.

He cited statistics showing there were 101 hurricanes from 1900 to 1949, in a period of cooler global temperatures, compared to 83 from 1957 to 2006 when the earth warmed.

"The human impact on the atmosphere is simply too small to have a major effect on global temperatures," Dr Gray said.

He said his beliefs had made him an outsider in popular science.

"It bothers me that my fellow scientists are not speaking out against something they know is wrong," he said. "But they also know that they'd never get any grants if they spoke out. I don't care about grants."

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Gore's prize: A fraud on the people

Five Norwegians gave a prize to Al Gore, and all the world is supposed to heed his counsel henceforth. No, thanks.

Alfred Nobel felt horrible about the uses to which his invention -- dynamite -- was put. So he endowed the Nobel Peace Prize and instructed that it go "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

Al Gore has done exactly none of those things.


Gore, however, did write a book and make a film about global warming. He has become the second environmental activist to win the peace prize in the past four years. Wangari Muta Maathai won it in 2004 for planting trees.

Thus we have indisputable confirmation that the Nobel Peace Prize is no longer a serious international award. In 1994 the five Norwegian politicians who award the prize gave it to the murdering thug Yasser Arafat. Two years before that they gave it to literary fraud Rigoberta Menchu, whose autobiography was largely fabricated. (An example: The brother she supposedly watched die of malnutrition was later found by a New York Times reporter to be very much alive and well.)

On Friday the prize was given to Al Gore and the International Panel on Climate Change. Two days before, a British judge ruled that Gore's film, "An Inconvenient Truth," contained so many errors (read: lies) that it could be shown in British public schools only if accompanied by a fact sheet correcting the errors.

The Nobel Peace Prize is worse than a joke. It's a fraud. It is such a transparent fraud that the five Norwegian politicians who award it have been reduced to defending their decision by concocting elaborate rationalizations. This year they laughably claimed that Gore deserves the prize because, well, global climate change" may induce large-scale migration and lead to greater competition for the Earth's resources," and "there may be increased danger of violent conflicts and wars." (Emphasis ours.)

And Islamic terrorists may give up jihad and sing Kumbaya after listening to old Cat Stevens records. But that's no basis for distributing the world's formerly most prestigious prize.

If winning this useless medal prompts Al Gore to get into the presidential race, which we doubt, the irony will be that the American people will turn a more skeptical eye to His Smugness than the Nobel committee did.

The American public won't accept at face value Gore's self-righteous proclamations or his self-serving predictions of looming global catastrophy. And Gore has to know that, which is why he will almost certainly stick to the world of make-believe -- Hollywood and International Do-Goodery -- where he can pretend to be the great sage and savior he wishes he really were and left-wing Europeans and thespians try to convince us he is.

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^^^^^

Well done! A repost, two articles basically endorsing Gore's award and the fourth, a fringe opinion from a fringe site which also carries the following alongside:
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Well done! A repost, two articles basically endorsing Gore's award and the fourth, a fringe opinion from a fringe site which also carries the following alongside:
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...Five Norwegians gave a prize to Al Gore, and all the world is supposed to heed his counsel henceforth. No, thanks....
Just because Gore won the Nobel Prize, you don't have to distort the facts to try to make the case that your dislike of the man is somehow supposed to be rational. Name any Nobel Prize winner who's counsel was heeded henceforth. That is not, and never was a condition of the award of the Nobel Prize in any field.

I will buy Gore's presentation of the global warming situation long before I will buy yours. Gore has actually taken the time to learn about the subject in the last twenty five years. You've spent a few minutes on Google looking for some anti-Gore shit to sling. Hardly makes your case that he wrong, or somehow an evil dude, credible.

And, given the consequences if Gore is correct, how is it wise to ignore the issue? How far above sea level do you live anyway?

The response by the anti-Gore crowd is predictably shallow. You, JE, dislike him because he claims he invented the internet, eh? If this is an example of the thoroughness that you research such claims and base your opinions on, then maybe it isn't just US politics and social issues that you are not really qualified to post about. God knows, you can and do, but it would seem your ability to sort facts from spinning fictions makes all your posts suspect. Jim
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