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But still 1M ?
Yeah, seems excessive but you've got to understand. That's $1 million less the housing contractor will make now since he's now down one illegal working for $2.50 hr.

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here's something that's drawing New York and Arizona closer:

Gotbaum Seeks Investigation Into Death

Saying it appeared that her stepdaughter-in-law had been “manhandled” by police officers before her death in police custody in Phoenix on Friday, New York City’s public advocate, Betsy Gotbaum, called yesterday for an investigation into the circumstances of the death.
The dead woman, Carol A. Gotbaum, 45, was found unconscious in a holding cell shortly after being arrested on a disorderly conduct charge at the Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport on Friday afternoon. Sgt. Andy Hill of the Phoenix police said that Ms. Gotbaum, of Manhattan, was found with a shackle used to connect her handcuffs to a bench stretched across her throat, and said that investigators believed she had become entangled while trying to shift her handcuffs from behind her back to the front.
A lawyer representing the Gotbaum family, Michael C. Manning, said that serious questions remained about the handling of the arrest.
“The family has not reached a conclusion as to whether her care and treatment were inappropriate, but the circumstances were highly unusual,” Mr. Manning said. “This woman — who was 5 foot 7, less than 110 pounds — was without doubt emotionally disturbed, and at this stage the family understands why the Phoenix Police Department intervened, but it’s what happened after the intervention that causes us concern.”
Mr. Manning said that Ms. Gotbaum was in the Phoenix airport for what was to have been a brief layover on her way to Tucson, where she planned to enter an alcoholism treatment program. He said he did not know how long she had had a drinking problem.
Mr. Manning said that the Maricopa County medical examiner’s office, which is responsible for such investigations at the Phoenix airport, had initially scheduled an autopsy for yesterday, but that at his request, the office had agreed to delay it. Mr. Manning also said that he wanted an independent forensic pathologist to be present during the autopsy.
According to the Phoenix police, who say they are still investigating the circumstances surrounding Ms. Gotbaum’s death, she became agitated and disruptive at the airport on Friday afternoon after missing a flight to Tucson. Sergeant Hill said that police officers arrested Ms. Gotbaum after trying unsuccessfully to calm her.
One officer took Ms. Gotbaum to an office where several police employees were working, Sergeant Hill said. She was placed in a room with her hands cuffed behind her back, he said.
Sergeant Hill said that police procedure calls for checking on detainees at least once every 15 minutes. After Ms. Gotbaum had been in the room 5 to 10 minutes, officers who went to check on her found her unconscious, the metal shackle pulled across her neck, he said.
The officers tried to resuscitate Ms. Gotbaum, as did emergency workers from the Fire Department, but both attempts were unsuccessful, Sergeant Hill said.
Yesterday, Betsy Gotbaum released a statement questioning the circumstances of Carol Gotbaum’s death.
“We are not jumping to any conclusions, but the circumstances surrounding Carol’s death appear to be unusual enough to raise serious questions and warrant a thorough investigation,” she said. “She cried out for help at the airport, but her pleas appear to have been met by mistreatment.”
Sergeant Hill declined to comment on statements about the arrest.
“We understand there is a grieving family,” he said. “At this point we have to wait for the investigation to take place.”
Ms. Gotbaum, a mother of three, lived on the Upper West Side. Her husband is Noah E. Gotbaum, an investor who has worked in Eastern Europe. Mr. Gotbaum is the son of Victor Gotbaum, who for many years was executive director of District Council 37 of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, the city’s largest alliance of public sector unions, and his former wife, Dr. Sarah C. Gotbaum.

On one hand, it could well be police brutality, but it could also be a work well-connected New York family who cannot come into terms with the deceased's unruly conduct and hiring high-profile personnel and blowing the issue out of proportion. If a trailer-park jo-blo died in a same circumstance, chances are that the commotion and the resulting death would only remain in the realm of a local police blotter.



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