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Sen. Liar, er, ah, I mean Larry, Craig

This is starting to be surreal. A poster child for maintaining power for the sake of power. Is the Republican Party going to act? I mean, seriously folks, when one of the possible criteria for being expelled from the Senate is "bringing dishonor on the Senate", one would think soliciting a blow job in a public men's room would qualify. He now claims the police officer was lying, he has no choice actually, because the police officer states that Craig actually came banging on his stall door demanding sexual attention. Average smucks like myself are left to wonder why a random police officer carrying out a men's room sting would be motivated to lie. Is this man not utterly reprehensible, first lying about resigning his post, then lying about the circumstances of his arrest? What has happened to the Republican Party? Days of defending a dope addict talk show host who hates soldiers who don't tow Der Fuerher's Line, and now this, a man who is literally a lying cocksucker throwing a pile of shit in their collective, and very public faces. Maybe we really are re-living the fall of Rome.

Sen. Craig vows to remain in office for term
Judge earlier rejected senator's bid to withdraw guilty plea in sex sting


Oct. 4: A Minnesota judge denies Idaho Sen. Larry Craig’s bid to withdraw his guilty plea in an airport sex sting. NBC's Pete Williams has the details.


MINNEAPOLIS - Idaho Sen. Larry Craig defiantly vowed to serve out his term in office on Thursday despite losing a court attempt to rescind his guilty plea in a men’s room sex sting.

“I have seen that it is possible for me to work here effectively,” Craig said in a written statement certain to disappoint fellow Republicans who have long urged him to step down.

Earlier Thursday, a Minnesota judge rejected Craig’s bid to withdraw his guilty plea in an airport sex sting, a major setback in Craig’s effort to clear his name.
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“Because the defendant’s plea was accurate, voluntary and intelligent, and because the conviction is supported by the evidence ... the Defendant’s motion to withdraw his guilty plea is denied,” Hennepin County Judge Charles Porter wrote.

Craig can appeal Porter’s ruling, but it wasn’t immediately clear if he would.

When the charges first surfaced, Craig said he would resign by Sept. 30. But then he decided to attempt to reopen his legal case, and said he would stay at least until he found out whether he could withdraw his plea.

Craig has maintained his innocence and said that his actions in the airport bathroom were misconstrued by the police officer who arrested him.

Craig was arrested June 11 by an airport police officer in a bathroom sex sting. The officer said Craig had looked into his bathroom stall, and tapped his foot and moved his hand under the divider in a way that suggested he was looking for a sexual partner.

Judge: Craig's misgivings not police's fault
Craig denied that in an interview with the officer after his arrest. But he pleaded guilty on Aug. 8. He later said he “panicked” in entering his plea, believing that it would keep the matter quiet. The Idaho Statesman had been holding back an article on rumors about his sexuality, and Craig said in court papers that he feared the arrest would trigger the story.

Porter said that was not a good reason to withdraw the plea. Any pressure Craig was under “was entirely perceived by the defendant and was not a result of any action by the police, the prosecutor, or the court,” he said.

The Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call reported Craig’s arrest and guilty plea on Aug. 27. Fellow Republican senators soon called on Craig to resign, and conservative groups, which had given him near-perfect approval ratings, abandoned him quickly.

Craig had been elected to Congress from Idaho in 1980 and was in his third term in the Senate.

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That makes this all ok, now, doesn't it? Is this how far you people have sunk, to jump up and defend this lowlife?

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That makes this all ok, now, doesn't it? Is this how far you people have sunk, to jump up and defend this lowlife?
So let's see which is worse, what Craig did in that airport, or what Teddy Kennedy did in Chappaquiddick?

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So you defend this guy? With some old event as an excuse? Man, Bruce, you would even defend this shitbag based on party. You really are a fanatic fuck.

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So let's see which is worse, what Craig did in that airport, or what Teddy Kennedy did in Chappaquiddick?

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Can you not hold anybody responsible for their own behavior without introducing meaningless comparisons? For the life of me, I don't understand that kind of (lack of) thinking (well, if Richard Speck did it, then it was OK for Jeffrey Dahmer). Seriously, who thinks like that besides folks who have no defense or argument whatsoever?

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So you defend this guy? With some old event as an excuse? Man, Bruce, you would even defend this shitbag based on party. You really are a fanatic fuck.
How is what I do any different from what YOU do little man....
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As to "some old event", at least nobody died in Craig’s situation. Mary Jo Kopechne can't say the same can she, yet the democrats still see him as a pillar of virtue. That’s some really wonderful party you shill for….

The mysteries of the case continue to haunt Ted Kennedy as well as the authorities who investigated them. Charges of ineptitude and lack of diligence abounded, as did insinuations that the machinery of justice crumbled beneath the power and prestige of the Kennedy family. George Killen, former State Police Detective-Lieutenant, and chief of a never-revealed investigation, lamented that the failure to bring the case to a satisfactory conclusion was "the biggest mistake" of a long and distinguished police career. Senator Kennedy, he said, "killed that girl the same as if he put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger."
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Can you not hold anybody responsible for their own behavior without introducing meaningless comparisons? For the life of me, I don't understand that kind of (lack of) thinking (well, if Richard Speck did it, then it was OK for Jeffrey Dahmer). Seriously, who thinks like that besides folks who have no defense or argument whatsoever?
BACK OFF!
There is nowhere that I said that Craig shouldn't be held responsible for his actions.
The fact remains that FoTL seems to think that the only liars around here are in only one party, that has to be just plain BS in anyone’s book, even yours.

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You are absurd. No where did I assert that. The whole point of the thread is to ask how the Republican Party can allow this man to carry on this behavior. You answered the question well. Shit man, back in the old days before you guys went nuts, there was a Senator Packwood (R) who got nasty with some woman on an elevator, and the GOP ran him out of town on a rail. Now you people let this man go on for months, lying about trying to suck a cop's cock. You really have hit the gutter.

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There is nowhere that I said that Craig shouldn't be held responsible for his actions.
The fact remains that FoTL seems to think that the only liars around here are in only one party, that has to be just plain BS in anyone’s book, even yours.
Ridiculous. He takes one side, and points out the transgressions of the other -- that's only natural. And more times than not, you come back by introducing a non-sequitur into the topic. It makes no sense to me. If Ted Kennedy was not in the Minnesota airport bathroom employing a wide stance defense, his name has no place in this thread -- period.

I'll add that you are not the only one to do that -- another poster did the same thing in this very thread, but the tactic is weak as weak gets, and just screams no game...

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